Aug 04, 2023
Does this bother anyone ?
I wont get into the details of this partnership, you can do your own research, but I'm just curious if this partnership bothers any ford owners or potential Ford owners. It's been covered in detail.
Right now Ford Motor Company is losing approximately $ 35,000.00 per every EV vehicle produced, which equates to approximately 4.5 billion per year. Ford gas powered vehicle division is doing reasonably well and making a profit, aside from being the recall leader the past 2 years. Ford Motor Company is has also taken the largest amount of subsidy / Bailout money from the United States government to date for EV development , 3 times more than General Motors. Lets be honest , the United States tax payer and the ford customers purchasing VERY EXPENSIVE gas powered trucks, suvs, and mustangs are basically subsidizing the Ford / CATL deal in Marshall , Michigan. What concerns me is that in February Ford CEO Jim Farley went on CNBC in February and when asked about the agreement with CATL replied that ford had no other options. CNBC vehemently questioned Mr. Farley on this and Farley continued to lie on national television. By the way, almost every statement made by Mr. Farley is either Ford Propaganda or straight out lies.
Mr. Faley claims that Ford has no other choice than to partner with CATL for battery production in the United States, on tax payers money.
Lets take a look at the competition :
1) toyota = owns their own battery production company with Panasonic as of 2022 and will build a plant in north carolina with batteries made using Panasonic technology and United States raw materials with 100 percent American workers = non-union.
2) stellantis = will partner with Lyten a company headquartered in CALIFORNIA.
3) General Motors = will partner with LG, Livent, and POSCO for EV battery support.
Again, this proves that Farley lied when asked the question by CNBC. Remember the United States specifically wrote the EV subsidy law bill so that a large percentage on EV battery production had to be North American or with a country that is in good standings with the United States and CHINA is excluded from the list. Ford believes they found a loop pole. Sounds sleazy to me. The plant in Michigan will be financed by the United States tax payers using Chinese technology, chinese materials, and approximately 300 Chinese engineers who will oversee the production. Sweet deal for ford, all they do at the end of the day is employ approximately 2500 UAW workers and build a cheap battery with Fords emblem stamped on it at the tax payers expense.
Keep in mind , I own 4 Ford vehicles totaling approximately $ 335,000.00.
Is there something I'm missing here or does this seem wrong and completely selfish that the company that's taunts themselves as the most " pro USA company" is working with and paying the same country/company that was flying drones over the United States and Canada, and participates in war games with RUSSIA.
I have to ask, I'm I the only Ford customer this bothers ?
I wont get into the details of this partnership, you can do your own research, but I'm just curious if this partnership bothers any ford owners or potential Ford owners. It's been covered in detail.
Right now Ford Motor Company is losing approximately $ 35,000.00 per every EV vehicle produced, which equates to approximately 4.5 billion per year. Ford gas powered vehicle division is doing reasonably well and making a profit, aside from being the recall leader the past 2 years. Ford Motor Company is has also taken the largest amount of subsidy / Bailout money from the United States government to date for EV development , 3 times more than General Motors. Lets be honest , the United States tax payer and the ford customers purchasing VERY EXPENSIVE gas powered trucks, suvs, and mustangs are basically subsidizing the Ford / CATL deal in Marshall , Michigan. What concerns me is that in February Ford CEO Jim Farley went on CNBC in February and when asked about the agreement with CATL replied that ford had no other options. CNBC vehemently questioned Mr. Farley on this and Farley continued to lie on national television. By the way, almost every statement made by Mr. Farley is either Ford Propaganda or straight out lies.
Mr. Faley claims that Ford has no other choice than to partner with CATL for battery production in the United States, on tax payers money.
Lets take a look at the competition :
1) toyota = owns their own battery production company with Panasonic as of 2022 and will build a plant in north carolina with batteries made using Panasonic technology and United States raw materials with 100 percent American workers = non-union.
2) stellantis = will partner with Lyten a company headquartered in CALIFORNIA.
3) General Motors = will partner with LG, Livent, and POSCO for EV battery support.
Again, this proves that Farley lied when asked the question by CNBC. Remember the United States specifically wrote the EV subsidy law bill so that a large percentage on EV battery production had to be North American or with a country that is in good standings with the United States and CHINA is excluded from the list. Ford believes they found a loop pole. Sounds sleazy to me. The plant in Michigan will be financed by the United States tax payers using Chinese technology, chinese materials, and approximately 300 Chinese engineers who will oversee the production. Sweet deal for ford, all they do at the end of the day is employ approximately 2500 UAW workers and build a cheap battery with Fords emblem stamped on it at the tax payers expense.
Keep in mind , I own 4 Ford vehicles totaling approximately $ 335,000.00.
Is there something I'm missing here or does this seem wrong and completely selfish that the company that's taunts themselves as the most " pro USA company" is working with and paying the same country/company that was flying drones over the United States and Canada, and participates in war games with RUSSIA.
I have to ask, I'm I the only Ford customer this bothers ?
OrangecrushBronco, the poacher
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