Buy off lot, or continue to wait, what would you do?

I reached out to the dealer and asked the salesman to see if he could find out what dealer it came from and if they installed all the accessories or if the owner did it himself. Or some joe blow shop... He said the dealer couldn't tell him one way or the other which doesn't make any sense. Meaning he probably never called or made any effort other than to reach back out to me and try to sell me something else. Which tells me more than anything else honestly...

So I told him I'd pass. Guess I'll keep waiting on a build date, or keep looking for a similar one to pop up.

Polaris425

I reached out to the dealer and asked the salesman to see if he could find out what dealer it came from and if they installed all the accessories or if the owner did it himself. Or some joe blow shop... He said the dealer couldn't tell him one way or the other which doesn't make any sense. Meaning he probably never called or made any effort other than to reach back out to me and try to sell me something else. Which tells me more than anything else honestly...

So I told him I'd pass. Guess I'll keep waiting on a build date, or keep looking for a similar one to pop up.

Is that the used one? If so, they probably purchased it at an auction and they will have no clue about any of it..

Try using Autotrader and do a nationwide search.. I think most dealers will post their vehicles on Autotrader. You might be able to find something close to what you ordered somewhere in the USA..

Good luck!

raqball

Is that the used one? If so, they probably purchased it at an auction and they will have no clue about any of it..

Try using Autotrader and do a nationwide search.. I think most dealers will post their vehicles on Autotrader. You might be able to find something close to what you ordered somewhere in the USA..

Good luck!

It is on autotrader, and on the dealer website. But it didn't originally come from their stock. Came from another Ford dealer. If that dealer installed all of the accessories they should be able to tell them that. But he claimed they couldn't but insisted I should buy it anyway. When he started all that salesman speak with me I just said forget it.

Polaris425

It is on autotrader, and on the dealer website. But it didn't originally come from their stock. Came from another Ford dealer. If that dealer installed all of the accessories they should be able to tell them that. But he claimed they couldn't but insisted I should buy it anyway. When he started all that salesman speak with me I just said forget it.

I asked because most, if not all bank repos are sold at auction.. That used one has a lot of cash in it and very low miles. If it's not a repo then I have to wonder why it was traded.

Either way, most dealers are going to be absolutely clueless about aftermarket addons done by a previous owner. Even if it was trade, they won't ask for paperwork on the mods. If it was an official Ford Dealer that installed the mods then they should be able to see that via the vehicles service record by VIN, I'd think..

The fact the dealer could not tell the other dealer about the mods tells me none of it was done by a Ford Dealership and was installed by the previous owner in his garage/driveway or a 3rd party shop.

There's a thing called CarFax... just need the VIN. All dealers have an account with CarFax.

Eninty

There's a thing called CarFax... just need the VIN. All dealers have an account with CarFax.

Carfax is NOT a reliable way to track used vehicles, especially on a 4x4 where owners can do a lot of work on their own that is not reported to Carfax. Most 3rd party shops that do 4x4 mods and installs do not report the the work to Carfax. Heck, there are even a lot smaller body shops that do not report to Carfax, even if they are suppose to do so.

Carfax is mainly a just feel good piece of paper, especially on a used and heavily modified 4x4...

If a Ford Dealer did the work it will be in their system so there is no need for a Carfax.

Polaris425

Still no build date. And when I called the dealer instead of helping me with the issue they found “another 2024 just like what I ordered” that they can have transferred and I can buy that. Downside is it’s Sasquatch and I didn’t want Sasquatch, since I didn’t see the value in adding $4000 for tires I don’t like. Another downside is the fact that’s it’s $4000 more than what I ordered b/c of that.

Now, I found a 2023 Badlands Lux package (my order is a Mid) with 3600 miles on it, for $3000 LESS than what I will pay for mine when it arrives. Not to mention it already has the larger KO2 tires and aftermarket rims on it I would eventually buy for mine, and a winch as well, which I would be buying for mine. And I haven’t clarified but it may be a Sasquatch, or otherwise they just put the Sasquatch fenders on it. Oh, and a roof rack. So I’d be getting something actually better, for $3000 less on the sticker, and several $1000’s savings in aftermarket accessories as well, and I don’t have to keep waiting around for a build date.

What would you do?

I wouldn't wait, either have them price match for option #1, or go with option #2 which would save you a lot of money.

One thing to keep in mind is that if you are looking at the automatic transmission, the one difference besides tires, on Badlands SAS is that it comes with 4.7 gears vs. the 4.4 gears on the Badlands without SAS. Those 4.7 gears are a perfect match for the 35" tires, whereas the 4.4 gears are a perfect match for the 33's. If you plan to go to 35's, it might be worth going with the SAS to get the gearing. If you plan to go to something even bigger, then you definitely don't want the 4.4. Putting 37's on a 4.7 seems to be just fine according to everyone I've talked to about that, but if you plan to go even bigger among other changes you'll probably want to go with at least 5.13's so SAS won't help you there. But, honestly, if you spend the money to go to 40's+ "right" (lots of other changes like portals, etc) then the added cost of the new gears isn't going to move the needle much.

If you still want to save a bundle on that Bronco that is optioned closely to the way you would set yours up it might be worth an afternoon of looking it over, a test drive, look at each accessory or mod and how it was installed. If you have a knowledgable friend who has a 4x4 with mods ride with them to the dealership. Park in front. Both of you ask to have the Bronco in question unlocked so you can go over it thoroughly.

Get the VIN and do a simple search, get the Monroney Sticker online and verify the options included when built.
Look closely to see if the winch was installed correctly with high quality wiring that was routed nicely.
If it really has 37s check to see if it has a lift of some kind.
All those mods adds up to quite a bit of money, so it might be a really good deal if it wasn't beat up too badly off road. Look at the skid plates to see if they are scratched up.
See what kind of warranty is left on the vehicle and if it is still covered with all the mods in place.
Buying a slightly used Bronco with 37s and a Sasquatch package that hasn't been abused can be a good buy.

If you really want a stock Bronco with your configuration follow the advice of those who previously mentioned the search technique with list in hand and have one shipped for less than $1000 to your location. In the end, you'll most likely be very happy with your Bronco. My wife loves her 2 door 4-cylinder manual and I liked it so much I ordered and waited for a 4 door six-cylinder.

raqball

Carfax is NOT a reliable way to track used vehicles, especially on a 4x4 where owners can do a lot of work on their own that is not reported to Carfax. Most 3rd party shops that do 4x4 mods and installs do not report the the work to Carfax. Heck, there are even a lot smaller body shops that do not report to Carfax, even if they are suppose to do so.

Carfax is mainly a just feel good piece of paper, especially on a used and heavily modified 4x4...

If a Ford Dealer did the work it will be in their system so there is no need for a Carfax.

I was speaking to the ownership/repo issue that you brought up. The OP could find our what Dealership in what city in what state the Bronco was originally purched in, how many owners it had, and if it went to auction, etc.

I’ve been thinking. I’m gonna run the VIN thru carfax myself and see what dealer it originally came from & call myself and see if they will tell me if they outfitted it there or not.

Polaris425

Still no build date. And when I called the dealer instead of helping me with the issue they found “another 2024 just like what I ordered” that they can have transferred and I can buy that. Downside is it’s Sasquatch and I didn’t want Sasquatch, since I didn’t see the value in adding $4000 for tires I don’t like. Another downside is the fact that’s it’s $4000 more than what I ordered b/c of that.

Now, I found a 2023 Badlands Lux package (my order is a Mid) with 3600 miles on it, for $3000 LESS than what I will pay for mine when it arrives. Not to mention it already has the larger KO2 tires and aftermarket rims on it I would eventually buy for mine, and a winch as well, which I would be buying for mine. And I haven’t clarified but it may be a Sasquatch, or otherwise they just put the Sasquatch fenders on it. Oh, and a roof rack. So I’d be getting something actually better, for $3000 less on the sticker, and several $1000’s savings in aftermarket accessories as well, and I don’t have to keep waiting around for a build date.

What would you do?

Move on completely to something else. Unless you want a garage queen that is barely driven. Between the growing list of recall and warranty issues and @Ford Motor Company and their dealership network being enfuriating. It is a full time job getting service scheduled, commuting to service departments that will actually do recall and/or warranty work and having your vehicle out of commission while things are being addressed and then potentially sitting for months while parts are sourced you are forced to choose between ignoring recalls or not having your vehicle. Coming from a blue oval lifer that loves my Bronco I don't know if I'll ever buy a Ford again. There is literally no point in warranties nor recalls when dealerships aren't required to fulfill them.

OrangecrushBronco

It is a full time job getting service scheduled, commuting to service departments that will actually do recall and/or warranty work and having your vehicle out of commission while things are being addressed and then potentially sitting for months while parts are sourced you are forced to choose between ignoring recalls or not having your vehicle.

My 8" screen randomly freezes up and I found a TSB on it. Went to local Ford dealer, showed them the printout and asked for an appointment to get it fixed. Dude tells me I would need to leave the Bronco for 2 or 3 days for them to troubleshoot.. WTF? No buddy, I just want the TSB performed..

He does not budge and says they'd need the Bronco for a few days.. LMAO!

I have a 12" screen upgrade on the way so I'll get it slapped in and go from there..

How does it take 2 or 3 days to perform a simple TSB?

Here is the TSB in question.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2024/MC-10249753-0001.pdf

I am gonna call the dealer I purchased it from and have them schedule it and see what they say. It's about an hour drive but might be worth it if I don't need to leave it for days on end..

Edit to add: Called the dealer I purchased from and was told that Ford does not allow them to perform a TSB w/o troubleshooting 1st..

Wait, what? So a Ford Dealer can basically 'troubleshoot' the exact, to the letter, issue listed in the TSB for 20 hours, then after racking up some billable hours determine that they need to do the TSB? I assume they then bill Ford for all those wasted 'troubleshooting' hours as well? Holy mother of fraud waiting to happen....

OrangecrushBronco

Move on completely to something else. Unless you want a garage queen that is barely driven. Between the growing \

Are you suggesting not a Bronco (or Ford) at all? Or just not the 2023 "used" one I found? I rode in a buddies Sequoia TRD_Pro today and... WOW... is all I can saw...

Polaris425

Are you suggesting not a Bronco (or Ford) at all? Or just not the 2023 "used" one I found? I rode in a buddies Sequoia TRD_Pro today and... WOW... is all I can saw...

I honestly think most manufacturers and dealers operate the same way so It's probably not just Ford.. When I had my Jeep I had to contact Jeep Cares (also known as Jeep Wave) a few times and let me tell you, that name, 'Cares' is an absolute joke as they don't give a flying _you know what_...

Took y’all’s advise. Searched the country and found a 2024 exactly like what I ordered but WITH the Sasquatch package, for only $1000 more than what I’m paying for my non-sas. I just text my salesman and told him if he could get that one for me at that price I’d jump on it. If he says he can’t, looks like I’m making a road trip.

Polaris425

Still no build date. And when I called the dealer instead of helping me with the issue they found “another 2024 just like what I ordered” that they can have transferred and I can buy that. Downside is it’s Sasquatch and I didn’t want Sasquatch, since I didn’t see the value in adding $4000 for tires I don’t like. Another downside is the fact that’s it’s $4000 more than what I ordered b/c of that.

Now, I found a 2023 Badlands Lux package (my order is a Mid) with 3600 miles on it, for $3000 LESS than what I will pay for mine when it arrives. Not to mention it already has the larger KO2 tires and aftermarket rims on it I would eventually buy for mine, and a winch as well, which I would be buying for mine. And I haven’t clarified but it may be a Sasquatch, or otherwise they just put the Sasquatch fenders on it. Oh, and a roof rack. So I’d be getting something actually better, for $3000 less on the sticker, and several $1000’s savings in aftermarket accessories as well, and I don’t have to keep waiting around for a build date.

What would you do?

How on earth are people still waiting for their Bronco order? You can get just about anything you want now with the exception of 2dr Heritage and Heritage Limited. I have a yellow 2dr in production that I never thought we'd see, Raptors are available, hard tops are scheduling for stock as is Sasquatch. You shouldn't have to settle, and there should be no reason your dealer can't get yours built unless they've been penalized when it comes to allocation.

Polaris425

It is on autotrader, and on the dealer website. But it didn't originally come from their stock. Came from another Ford dealer. If that dealer installed all of the accessories they should be able to tell them that. But he claimed they couldn't but insisted I should buy it anyway. When he started all that salesman speak with me I just said forget it.

Dealerships don't work together like most people think they do. Calling the other dealer is usually a waste of time leading to voicemails that are never returned. Once they sold that Bronco to the other dealership, it was off their plate and they don't want to see it again or talk to the buying dealer.

raqball

My 8" screen randomly freezes up and I found a TSB on it. Went to local Ford dealer, showed them the printout and asked for an appointment to get it fixed. Dude tells me I would need to leave the Bronco for 2 or 3 days for them to troubleshoot.. WTF? No buddy, I just want the TSB performed..

He does not budge and says they'd need the Bronco for a few days.. LMAO!

I have a 12" screen upgrade on the way so I'll get it slapped in and go from there..

How does it take 2 or 3 days to perform a simple TSB?

Here is the TSB in question.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2024/MC-10249753-0001.pdf

I am gonna call the dealer I purchased it from and have them schedule it and see what they say. It's about an hour drive but might be worth it if I don't need to leave it for days on end..

Edit to add: Called the dealer I purchased from and was told that Ford does not allow them to perform a TSB w/o troubleshooting 1st..

Wait, what? So a Ford Dealer can basically 'troubleshoot' the exact, to the letter, issue listed in the TSB for 20 hours, then after racking up some billable hours determine that they need to do the TSB? I assume they then bill Ford for all those wasted 'troubleshooting' hours as well? Holy mother of fraud waiting to happen....

This is common, Ford doesn't reimburse the dealer for their time if the concern isn't verified first. If the TSB doesn't fix your concern, they are out for that time they have to pay their tech. The reason they need your vehicle for that length of time is because they have to work it into their current workflow and there may be a line of vehicles ahead of you. Trust me, we don't want to tell customers this, we would love to just perform the TSB every time and send you on your way, but that doesn't keep Ford's warranty costs down to the level they expect especially when the TSB isn't always the right fix. TSB's are kind of like diag codes, they're often used as a reference point. Are you planning a 12" screen swap? You realize those APIMs are VIN specific, right?

raqball

My 8" screen randomly freezes up and I found a TSB on it. Went to local Ford dealer, showed them the printout and asked for an appointment to get it fixed. Dude tells me I would need to leave the Bronco for 2 or 3 days for them to troubleshoot.. WTF? No buddy, I just want the TSB performed..

He does not budge and says they'd need the Bronco for a few days.. LMAO!

I have a 12" screen upgrade on the way so I'll get it slapped in and go from there..

How does it take 2 or 3 days to perform a simple TSB?

Here is the TSB in question.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2024/MC-10249753-0001.pdf

I am gonna call the dealer I purchased it from and have them schedule it and see what they say. It's about an hour drive but might be worth it if I don't need to leave it for days on end..

Edit to add: Called the dealer I purchased from and was told that Ford does not allow them to perform a TSB w/o troubleshooting 1st..

Wait, what? So a Ford Dealer can basically 'troubleshoot' the exact, to the letter, issue listed in the TSB for 20 hours, then after racking up some billable hours determine that they need to do the TSB? I assume they then bill Ford for all those wasted 'troubleshooting' hours as well? Holy mother of fraud waiting to happen....

I was just told they have to do a diagnostics before the can tighten the door windows that shake rattle and roll. They said since it's new enough and under warranty it should be covered but they have to get the diagnostics approved by Ford. 🙄

Eninty

There's a thing called CarFax... just need the VIN. All dealers have an account with CarFax.

CarFax is only as good as the data that has been input into the database. If a shop doesn't send data to CarFax, CarFax won't have it on the report. If someone pays cash to repair a vehicle and doesn't file an insurance claim, CarFax doesn't have the data. If there was no police report but someone hits a tree, CarFax doesn't have the data and it won't be on the report. We actually dumped CarFax decades ago because it's so bad at collecting data and there are other far more reliable history report companies.