What is the best way to purchase a modular bumper from someone on this forum without being ripped off?

The Bronc
Jan 25, 2023

Rank IV

Jan 25, 2023

I had a WilsonJ83 who says is a member of this forum reach out to me to sell a modular front bumper. He wants me to pay first before he ships. I recommended that we make the transaction through eBay. What other suggestions do you have?
Badlands 4 door; Sasquatch; Eruption Green; 2.7; MIC; Tow; MGV; Lux; ordered 2/1/22
TitsLaRue

Rank IV

Jan 25, 2023

#1
Use PayPal.
22 Badlands 4 dr, sas, lux, mic, 2.7, cactus gray. Ordered 2/21/22 - Re Order 9/22/2022 for 23 model
Laura

Gotta just go for it

Jan 25, 2023

#2
I used paypal when I purchased something from someone on this site. It probably protects you as a buyer more than them as the seller.
OBX, SAS, high, leather, 2.3, soft top.
Laura

Burrito Connoisseur

Jan 25, 2023

#3
In-person with a certified check or money order is definitely the best way to protect both you and the seller. You see the actual product they are selling, and he doesn't have to worry about a check bouncing.

Outside of that... use PayPal or Venmo. When you go through the purchase mark the transaction as a "Goods and Services" or a "Purchase" transaction and not a transaction between friends. For a fee they'll offer some basic level of buyer (and seller) protection if you mark it as a purchase. (Just make sure you read the fine print.)
2022 4dr Badlands, 2.3L Manual, Mid pkg
Laura, Deano Bronc and 1 other

Rank VI

Jan 25, 2023

#4
Pay 1/2 in advance. That way, you're both at equal risk.
Check the seller's posting history and see if you can get a feel for his legitimacy. Few posts, short history, would make him suspect.

Rank VI

Jan 25, 2023

#5
@Wilsonj83
'21 AMB Basesquatch 2 Door. 569 days from reservation to delivery

Rank IV

Jan 25, 2023

#6
@Wilsonj83
I can find no member by the name Wilsonj83 on this forum. Buyer be aware!!
Badlands 4 door; Sasquatch; Eruption Green; 2.7; MIC; Tow; MGV; Lux; ordered 2/1/22
Deano Bronc, BostonBadlands and 2 others

Rank VI

Jan 25, 2023

#7
I can find no member by the name Wilsonj83 on this forum. Buyer be aware.
Or on the other forum. See my post, above.
(I just learned he's the son of a Nigerian prince, is studying economics at East South Central Podunk Community College, upgraded his Bronco and wants to sell the old one.)
Bronco 202?, Deano Bronc and 6 others
Moderator Staff member

Administrator

Jan 25, 2023

#8
Correct, we don't have a user by that name here. To be fair, a lot of people THINK they're a part of "The Bronco Nation," but they're in the other Bronco Nation facebook group, or something else. It could be an honest mistake there, but please be careful when sending money. In-person, PayPal and options that let you easily dispute are your best bet.
2021 Oxford White 2-door non-Sas Mid package 2.7L/10-speed Badlands with MIC top
Keeping the Jeeps: stock '89 XJ and 3.5" lifted '00 XJ on 31s
Deano Bronc

Usually stuck in the mud

Jan 25, 2023

#9
Wait until he parks and goes into a store, then its just six bolts.

Kidding, kidding. PayPal will certainly help, and if they decline PayPal, they're definitely a scammer. I have vetted scammers who have sent photos from Craigslist or eBay of other people's items, sent me photos of fake IDs, created fake bank accounts in the name of the fake ID, and looked otherwise legit. They were even willing to "meet in person" as long as I put a deposit down. Some of these are career scammers, and law enforcement is well aware of them but can rarely do anything to stop it.

The best option is to buy it from an OE parts retailer online. The extra money is usually worth peace of mind - and also gets you a parts warranty. If you can't do that, I'd insist on doing the transaction in person, with no cash up front. If you can't do it in person, ask to FaceTime them while they're with the item so you can talk to them and check it out... reading someone is a lot easier when you can see them too. Anything that involves shipping, you're going to want to use PayPal with a credit card, then you have two ways to dispute it if it turns out to be a fraud - PayPal, and your credit card company.

I've done business with legit people online who have a reputation in the community. There are lots of good people out there. Some rando posting a part you're looking for is just someone waving a carrot though and you should be weary.

Good luck.
BaBump, Laura and 4 others

More snow comin!

Jan 25, 2023

#10
PayPal has been very reliable. I had an experience with buying something from a facebook post and had to get a refund. It wasn't difficult to get my money back. There are a lot of stories out there about scammers. Hope You find one you can buy safely!
2022 Bronco Black Diamond 2dr 2.3L manual Hot Pepper Red. Reserved 8/7/20. Ordered 1/23/21. Reordered 10/08/21. Scheduled week of January 24th 2022, delivered 2/24/2022
BaBump, Laura and 1 other

Rank VI

Jan 25, 2023

#11
I prefer Venmo, but to each his/her own and their comfort level. They may have price/cost limit restrictions, but you’ll have to look into that before suggesting such a transaction. Good luck!

CHRIS here. Velocity Blue 2.7L V6 2-Door Badlands • Sasquatch • Lux • Modular Bumper - Bone stock is the latest "Mod." 🤓

Laura, Deano Bronc

Rank V

Jan 25, 2023

#12
I'm sure I've been ripped off once or twice... but I can't remember when. However, the lessons are with me. For me, there are a number of factors that must check out for ANY transaction--online or at the supermarket. The greater the value of the transaction, the more rigorous the checks.

1. Instinct. If it looks or feels shady at any point, disengage, turn back, abort. No harm, no foul.

2. Background. What do/can I know about this buyer/seller? Is she known in the community? Reputation? Employment? Family? Location? Lifestyle? Chance of flight? I'm not necessarily drilling the person directly, and that brings us to 3...

3. Communication. Phone conversations. Video calls. Video calls with the item in box. Generally, the amount of communication is in proportion to the value of the transaction. If the person has no time for a friendly and investigative conversation... see item number 1.

4. Terms. Based on the above risk assessment steps, we develop terms. That could mean sending the money first. Travelling across state lines for a personal meeting. Paying a portion up front. Escrow. It really depends.

If everything makes sense and feels positive... go for it. That's not a promise that it's going to work out, but what can you do, right?

Also!! Be ready to take the L (loss) or fight. Every transaction has the potential of going south. (Verizon tried to do me dirty just yesterday!!) Have a mechanism for coping with that reality. If the L would present a major impact to your situation (financial, timewise, mental, etc.), then you may want to abandon the transaction or take additional steps to ensure its success.

There are financial institutions that can help you recover loses. But that may be a real process--phone calls and 'please listen to the entire message before making a selection as our options have changed', and potentially days or weeks to get your money back.

Some folks are built for all that stuff. I'm not. I got stuff to do. So, I avoid transactions that might seriously impact my situation. And if something goes sidewise, I know me, I'm probably going to take the lesson, and keep moving--that's why I do ALL of my checking BEFORE MONEY/PRODUCT CHANGE HAND.

Good luck!
2021 Ford Bronco | Wildtrak | 2.7L V6 + 10-speed | 4-Door | Cyber Orange
Hardtop | Towing | Tube Step | Modular Front Bumper | Lux | Digital A/C Knobs
BuckYeah, Laura and 3 others

Rank V

Jan 25, 2023

#13
The best option is to buy it from an OE parts retailer online. The extra money is usually worth peace of mind - and also gets you a parts warranty.

This.
Say the bumper is in great condition. If the price is really low, it could be a 'too good to be true' condition. If the price is reasonable... how much is it saving you from getting it from Ford, and is it worth it?
2021 Ford Bronco | Wildtrak | 2.7L V6 + 10-speed | 4-Door | Cyber Orange
Hardtop | Towing | Tube Step | Modular Front Bumper | Lux | Digital A/C Knobs
Laura

Rank IV

Jan 25, 2023

#14
I sold a modular bumper recently. I would only sell locally, and purchaser drove a couple hours to my location. Cash in hand, easy peasy. We were both protected with that type of exchange.
Laura, Sdakotabronco and 3 others

Rank VI

Jan 25, 2023

#15
Take your 45
BostonBadlands, Stick in the Mud and 1 other

Rank V

Jan 25, 2023

#16
As a gun owner, I say: if you feel you need to bring a 45 (etc.) to buy a bumper... don't buy that bumper. Find another one.
2021 Ford Bronco | Wildtrak | 2.7L V6 + 10-speed | 4-Door | Cyber Orange
Hardtop | Towing | Tube Step | Modular Front Bumper | Lux | Digital A/C Knobs
tlowell01, Stick in the Mud and 3 others

Usually stuck in the mud

Jan 25, 2023

#17
Pay 1/2 in advance. That way, you're both at equal risk.
Check the seller's posting history and see if you can get a feel for his legitimacy. Few posts, short history, would make him suspect.
This is uniquely terrible advice. A scammer will simply keep the money and run.
BostonBadlands
Moderator

The Barney Fife of Moderators.

Jan 26, 2023

#18
don’t take the bait. don’t take the bait.
Thank you.

Let's please keep this on topic. There is a lot of great information in this thread so let's keep it going with relevant info.🙂
2022 Bronco Badlands, 4D, Hot Pepper Red, 2.7, Squatch, Lux, and MIC.
7/13/2020 10:04pm reservation. Blend 6/16/2022 Delivered 6/26/2022.
Dealership - Stephen's Auto Center.
Stick in the Mud
Moderator Staff member

Administrator

Jan 26, 2023

#19
I've been asked to clean up this thread to keep it on track. Thanks, Dean, for already making that effort.
2021 Oxford White 2-door non-Sas Mid package 2.7L/10-speed Badlands with MIC top
Keeping the Jeeps: stock '89 XJ and 3.5" lifted '00 XJ on 31s
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