Theft Deterrence

jwiskamp

Aug 22, 2023

My friend was visiting Littleton, CO from Mesa, AZ. Had his 2020 F150 Raptor stolen from the hotel parking lot--good area with low crime and the lot was well lit.
Reason for the post: according to the Littleton Police, it is not difficult for a bad guy though nefarious internet means to clone a key fob to their cell phone. Supposedly use the VIN or license plate to get to the VIN. Allegedly Ford Connect may provide the avenue into the cloning. Note: most all USA and offshore brands have similar openings through their "Connects."
According to the Police, once cloned they are able to quickly unlock, start, disable Ford Connect and OE tracking, then drive off.
Anyone heard of this? There is quite a bit on the internet and the personal side of this story is troubling.
Read of a "white hat" hacker who alerts the OE's when he finds a way into their systems. All--including Ford--are fairly quick to close the openings. However, my friend's Raptor was stolen yesterday, so the crooks are quick to adapt.
Through initial research I have been unable to find a good theft deterrence for our 22 Wildtrak and 19 Lincoln. Ideas or comments?

Laura, Chief Ron

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Aug 23, 2023

#20

TK1215
Hmm this is an interesting thread. I been thinking about this conundrum and for the truly paranoid (all in my circle and orbit), a last resort anti-theft idea. Pop your hood, close and lock vehicle, open hood, disconnect battery, close hood. Unlock with key, pop hood reconnect battery. Start car, quick recalibration and you are off and running. I have had my battery disconnected overnight and haven’t even lost a radio channel.

Is that like a hard reboot? Are you sure you're not in the IT field? 😆

Chris here. I drive a 2-door Velocity Blue 2023 Ford Bronco Badlands with Sasquatch, Lux, a 2.7L V6, and an automatic transmission. It’s fun.

Chief Ron, Sven

Aug 23, 2023

#21

BuckYeah
One of the things I like about the Ford Pass app is the ability to see where my car is at all times. That could come in handy if it goes missing. :geek:

And that app can alert you when a door is opened. Downside of app is that the thieves know how to disable it in the vehicle from what I hear.
Sucks that we have to work really hard to try to keep people from stealing our stuff!

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Chief Ron, BuckYeah

Aug 23, 2023

#22

Sven
My throttle controller has a throttle lock function. Wonder how long it takes them to figure that out?

What is a throttle lock and how does this work?

Aug 23, 2023

#23

Dwalsh
What is a throttle lock and how does this work?

This is the company I got mine from.
https://www.ultimate9.co/
Model X622
Just a snipit of what it does.

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Chief Ron, Darrel

Aug 23, 2023

#24

BuckYeah
One of the things I like about the Ford Pass app is the ability to see where my car is at all times. That could come in handy if it goes missing. :geek:

Thieves disabled that when they tried to get my truck.

I got an AirTag in mine now as a back up. Thieves can find it tho.

James M., Chief Ron

Aug 23, 2023

#25

I think we all have to start thinking like a criminal to combat theft! 🤪

Chris here. I drive a 2-door Velocity Blue 2023 Ford Bronco Badlands with Sasquatch, Lux, a 2.7L V6, and an automatic transmission. It’s fun.

Deano Bronc, Chief Ron

Aug 23, 2023

#26

PSUTE
If it is autonomous, how would you know it didn't run away to find a better home?...:)...

Good point.
I can see people wandering the neighborhood whistling and calling their car.The real danger is if the car mates with another car that is substandard, there could be EV bastards all over the place. Valets will have signs that say "We don't park mutts"
Have to develop a jack system to automatically lifts wheels off ground so it can't take off on its own.

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Dwalsh, Stryf

Aug 24, 2023

#27

Dwalsh
What is a throttle lock and how does this work?

I have the Sprint Booster V3. It also has Pedal Lock and Valet mode. Use it all the time. Takes less than a minute to enable/disable.

Deano Bronc, Chief Ron

Aug 24, 2023

#28

Sven
This is the company I got mine from.
https://www.ultimate9.co/
Model X622
Just a snipit of what it does.

Thank you! I will check it out; seems interesting.

Sven

Aug 24, 2023

#29

adcam
I have the Sprint Booster V3. It also has Pedal Lock and Valet mode. Use it all the time. Takes less than a minute to enable/disable.

Thank you!! I had never heard of these before. Definitely worth looking into

Chief Ron, Sven

Aug 24, 2023

#30

Darrel
And that app can alert you when a door is opened. Downside of app is that the thieves know how to disable it in the vehicle from what I hear.
Sucks that we have to work really hard to try to keep people from stealing our stuff!

The open door alert doesn’t work anymore. Ford disabled it and might offer it as a subscription in the future. They claim it was a temporary Beta test.

Darrel, Chief Ron

Aug 24, 2023

#31

I feel like I have the best Auto-Theft device. --

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BostonBadlands, Gyoja

Aug 24, 2023

#32

Bukansa
I feel like I have the best Auto-Theft device. --

True. Hard to roll away with electric parking brake too.

Chief Ron

Aug 24, 2023

#33

BuckYeah
I think we all have to start thinking like a criminal to combat theft! 🤪

So sad, so true.

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Chief Ron

Aug 24, 2023

#34

BostonBadlands
"Back in the day" those things were very easily defeated. But now, perhaps they'll defeat crooks of this generation. Actually, a manual transmission is a pretty effective deterrent to most young car thieves--carjackers, especially. Most urban hoodlums don't know how to shift!

I feel like this is urban folklore that is passed around. I'm sure if thieves were interested in vehicles with manual transmissions, they'd take the few minutes to learn a manual transmission. They don't need to be perfect, just good enough to get the vehicle somewhere else. There are YouTube videos explaining how to learn a manual transmission in 5 minutes. The one I saw was actually quality instruction.

Aug 24, 2023

#35

Bukansa
I feel like I have the best Auto-Theft device. --

Gotta love us OG’s!

Chief Ron, Deano Bronc

Aug 24, 2023

#36

timhood
I feel like this is urban folklore that is passed around. I'm sure if thieves were interested in vehicles with manual transmissions, they'd take the few minutes to learn a manual transmission. They don't need to be perfect, just good enough to get the vehicle somewhere else. There are YouTube videos explaining how to learn a manual transmission in 5 minutes. The one I saw was actually quality instruction.

This is true, but I had to take my truck to get a rock chip fixed not long ago. The gal that was going to pull it into the shop assured me she could drive a stick. I watched as the truck started, then sat there for about 5 minutes. I finally went outside to the passenger side and opened the door. She couldn't figure out how to put it in reverse. 😂

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timhood, Chief Ron

Aug 24, 2023

#37

TK1215
Hmm this is an interesting thread. I been thinking about this conundrum and for the truly paranoid (all in my circle and orbit), a last resort anti-theft idea. Pop your hood, close and lock vehicle, open hood, disconnect battery, close hood. Unlock with key, pop hood reconnect battery. Start car, quick recalibration and you are off and running. I have had my battery disconnected overnight and haven’t even lost a radio channel.

I have often thought about a relay or switch somewhere. That the owner could press or flip that disconnects the power supply within the vehicle, although the reset every time would get annoying.

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Chief Ron, Sven

Aug 24, 2023

#38

Switch that kills power to starter circuit, ignition coils, or fuel pump would work w/o reset. If that concerned then u could always pop one of those fuses. Just a thought. 🐎

2023 Wildtrak, sas, mid, soft top. Not crazy offroader…. Just a normal trail junkie

Deano Bronc, Mikes2021Bronco

Aug 24, 2023

#39

Mikes2021Bronco
I have often thought about a relay or switch somewhere. That the owner could press or flip that disconnects the power supply within the vehicle, although the reset every time would get annoying.

That's called Ravelco.

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