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Deano Bronc

@EriktheCabonizedGray - I know your company has several different floor jacks. Any interest in developing an "off road" jack that would have larger/wider wheels, high lift, light weight, small footprint with a collapsible handle that could be mounted in the back of a Bronco?😁 Seems feasible. 😂

Looks like they do sell an off-road jack…. Curious as to the weight… @EriktheCabonizedGray ?

Bluestreak57

Looks like they do sell an off-road jack…. Curious as to the weight… @EriktheCabonizedGray ?

Yeah, I saw that, but I didn't see any mention of weight.
I guess they sell this one as an off-road jack.
https://motleyind.com/products/3t-big-wheel-off-road-jack-cat

Deano Bronc

Yeah, I saw that, but I didn't see any mention of weight.
I guess they sell this one as an off-road jack.
https://motleyind.com/products/3t-big-wheel-off-road-jack-cat

90+ lbs…
CHECK THAT— 89.54 pounds…
Built by all-trade

Bluestreak57

I’m going to find one…. As stated elsewhere, the bronco jack is pretty sketchy…

I use https://safejacks.com/

They are a great off road jack. Strong and dependable. They come in a small red bag. I also carry the larger base so it doesn't slip on a grade. It stows under the seat well. I also have the jack stand which I don't carry in the Bronco because of space.

Bluestreak57

And now back to our regular programming…

Good Monday Morning, Kids!
For those still nursing a “hangover” from Moab (whether alcohol induced or not), there’s a second pot of Colombian Roast ready and waiting… Doughnuts galore await on the counter and the sun is peeking over the mountains in a clear sky here on the left coast!

Such an honor and joy to meet long-time friends for the first time last week. If you have never done Moab, it might be a “must do” bucket list item!

This is a great picture. I saw this briefly the other day. Haven't had a chance to go through the thread and probably won't for a week or so being on the road. I wanted to share how much I like this pic.

Deano Bronc

Yeah, I saw that, but I didn't see any mention of weight.
I guess they sell this one as an off-road jack.
https://motleyind.com/products/3t-big-wheel-off-road-jack-cat

These jacks are definitely better; however, they take a lot of space.

Deano Bronc

@EriktheCabonizedGray - I know your company has several different floor jacks. Any interest in developing an "off road" jack that would have larger/wider wheels, high lift, light weight, small footprint with a collapsible handle that could be mounted in the back of a Bronco?😁 Seems feasible. 😂

We do. We actually have a couple already for sale. We have the CAT 3-ton Big Wheel Off-Road Jack and the 3000lbs Big Wheel Triple Lift Jack. We even have a 3-ton All In One Jackstand/Bottle Jack that is currently sold out. https://motleyind.com/collections/accessories-1

Roughstock11

These jacks are definitely better; however, they take a lot of space.

We are currently working on a mounting plate for this CAT jack. It's still very early in that process, though. The 3T All-in-one jackstand/bottle jack that we sell is what I use. Unfortunately, we are currently sold out of those jacks.

SlashRacer

That was @brnc_o_vrlndr jack.

That is the Badland 3 ton offroad jack from Harbor Freight.

Deano Bronc

Yeah, I saw that, but I didn't see any mention of weight.
I guess they sell this one as an off-road jack.
https://motleyind.com/products/3t-big-wheel-off-road-jack-cat

Those won't work for the jack and push to the side technique to get out of deep ruts, you need a high lift jack.

Bronco V-8

Those won't work for the jack and push to the side technique to get out of deep ruts, you need a high lift jack.

Nope…..but it worked GREAT on the trail for my needs!!!

Is there another Moab Trip or something going on, everyone is packing for Moab…..
“Oh Wait”
I’m only 19 pages behind, it will make it most difficult to answer a lot of them since I already saw all of you out there in Moab….🤣
Anyhoo!
We are now just going into Iowa and leaving Nebraska, on our way to Davenport Iowa.
It is like 32 hours of driving “not including stops for fuel or food” 😕 after leaving Vegas……
I started out looking like this after leaving Moab and Vegas…🙁
Once we got on the road I was like…😀
Me after the first day….😕
Us on the second day of our trip home….🤪
Who knows what tomorrow will bring!!!
🤔

From Montana Overland and 4x4 and Adventures

OFF-ROADING 101: A Little Winch Math:
Basic winching and the effects of deep mud, sand, or snow on mire math.
What if your 4x4 is stuck in deep Mud? The depth of the bog (mire) will have a massive effect on the loaded weight of the vehicle being recovered. Here is a very simple guide for calculating the dead weight of the vehicle when in the mud. It's not scientific, but it is usable & easy to remember.
If stuck to the base of your wheels (known as "tire-depth"), it can require a pull of up to 75% to 100% of the loaded vehicle.
If stuck to the axles, it may require a pull of up to 150% of the weight of the stuck 4x4.
If stuck to the chassis/rocker panels+, depending on how deep, it can be 2x to 3x the total weight of the stuck vehicle! That will depend on just how deep you are stuck and the viscosity of what you are stuck in. In general, think 2x vehicle weight at the rockers and 3x if you are bogged to mid-doors. Meh...it happens. Hopefully, not very often, though.
That's a potential pull of 300% of the load. 3x an average JKU Rubi is around 18,400lbs or so. So, it is best to keep that in mind for a deeply mired rig, though mire factors of 1x to 2x will be much more common.
Of course, pulling sideways, uphill, or if there is vehicle damage will make things even worse.
Have your snatch block(s) handy, and make sure that ALL of your recovery gear is up to the task. It is good form to pull out enough winch line to use the inner, more powerful layers on the drum for best results.
Wheel Safe!!

Roughstock11

I use https://safejacks.com/

They are a great off road jack. Strong and dependable. They come in a small red bag. I also carry the larger base so it doesn't slip on a grade. It stows under the seat well. I also have the jack stand which I don't carry in the Bronco because of space.

I have the same bottle jack. It wasn't cheap, but it gives me a sense of comfort.

Sven

From Montana Overland and 4x4 and Adventures

OFF-ROADING 101: A Little Winch Math:
Basic winching and the effects of deep mud, sand, or snow on mire math.
What if your 4x4 is stuck in deep Mud? The depth of the bog (mire) will have a massive effect on the loaded weight of the vehicle being recovered. Here is a very simple guide for calculating the dead weight of the vehicle when in the mud. It's not scientific, but it is usable & easy to remember.
If stuck to the base of your wheels (known as "tire-depth"), it can require a pull of up to 75% to 100% of the loaded vehicle.
If stuck to the axles, it may require a pull of up to 150% of the weight of the stuck 4x4.
If stuck to the chassis/rocker panels+, depending on how deep, it can be 2x to 3x the total weight of the stuck vehicle! That will depend on just how deep you are stuck and the viscosity of what you are stuck in. In general, think 2x vehicle weight at the rockers and 3x if you are bogged to mid-doors. Meh...it happens. Hopefully, not very often, though.
That's a potential pull of 300% of the load. 3x an average JKU Rubi is around 18,400lbs or so. So, it is best to keep that in mind for a deeply mired rig, though mire factors of 1x to 2x will be much more common.
Of course, pulling sideways, uphill, or if there is vehicle damage will make things even worse.
Have your snatch block(s) handy, and make sure that ALL of your recovery gear is up to the task. It is good form to pull out enough winch line to use the inner, more powerful layers on the drum for best results.
Wheel Safe!!

This is a good thing to keep in mind when you're buying your winch. A Bronco Badlands weighs about 6.1K pounds, so that 10K winch might pull it in some cases, but won't do the trick at that 2x range, much less the 3x range discussed above. Of course you would need an 18K winch to get that 3x range. Instead, as mentioned, I would be looking at a snatch block, or better yet one of those new fancy snatch rings. Two of these rings (and three soft shackles{2 double loops and 1 single loop}) can do the job of 4 standard snatch blocks and 5 hard shackles! That would give you a ton of pull, is a huge reduction in total weight and gives you a massive increase in configuration options!

I knew I took my plow off too soon....Yee Haw! 😁

JoergH

This is a good thing to keep in mind when you're buying your winch. A Bronco Badlands weighs about 6.1K pounds, so that 10K winch might pull it in some cases, but won't do the trick at that 2x range, much less the 3x range discussed above. Of course you would need an 18K winch to get that 3x range. Instead, as mentioned, I would be looking at a snatch block, or better yet one of those new fancy snatch rings. Two of these rings (and three soft shackles{2 double loops and 1 single loop}) can do the job of 4 standard snatch blocks and 5 hard shackles! That would give you a ton of pull, is a huge reduction in total weight and gives you a massive increase in configuration options!

A good rule of thumb for a winch is to get one rated for double the weight of your buggy.

Sven

A good rule of thumb for a winch is to get one rated for double the weight of your buggy.

So, at least a 12K for the Bronco, eh? The HF Badlands, for example.

Darrel

Good Morning! And Happy Hump Day! Thanks for the coffee @UserError!
I get to work from home today!
Have a great day all!
Not saying I think we are weirdos, but y'all are my tribe.

Yep!!!🙂‍↕️

😂😂😂

BroncOitis

Is there another Moab Trip or something going on, everyone is packing for Moab…..
“Oh Wait”
I’m only 19 pages behind, it will make it most difficult to answer a lot of them since I already saw all of you out there in Moab….🤣
Anyhoo!
We are now just going into Iowa and leaving Nebraska, on our way to Davenport Iowa.
It is like 32 hours of driving “not including stops for fuel or food” 😕 after leaving Vegas……
I started out looking like this after leaving Moab and Vegas…🙁
Once we got on the road I was like…😀
Me after the first day….😕
Us on the second day of our trip home….🤪
Who knows what tomorrow will bring!!!
🤔

Safe rest of your migration back, @BroncOitis 🙂