Motor Oil

Walmart carries Motorcraft 5W-30 synthetic blend as well as Motorcraft FL 910S oil filters. Not a large supply but they do carry them.

BuckYeah

Is it safe to assume that Ford dealers will use the best oil available for our Broncos? I don’t have the luxury of having a place to change my own oil. I’ve got to rely on dealers. I don’t care what it costs so long as they’re using the right oil and my warranty isn’t adversely affected. I spare no expense when it comes to maintenance.

Dealers (and Ford themselves) use Motorcraft Synthetic Blend... usually comes in 205L drums.

The only exceptions to that rule are vehicles that come with supercharged engines such as Ford GT, Mustang GT500, and (I would assume) the F-150 Raptor R. Ford GT uses some special supercar motor oil (I think is manufactured by Castrol). The vehicles with the Predator engine use Motorcraft Full Synthetic.

And @Deano Bronc made a good point... you can usually supply your own oil. Although sometimes if you do that you miss out on the packaged deals (such as "The Works"), and it can cost more to use your own oil. Silly if you ask me but whatever.

extra toasty

All I am saying is GF-6A oils are superior to any GF-5 for these EcoBoost applications. GF-6A happens to be inclusive with the WSS-M2C961-A1 requirements.
Full synthetics are also better.

You can spin it anyway you want…

Yeah I understand what you are saying, and you are correct GF-6A is generally inclusive of the Ford spec, and is also a better motor oil. But you also said that GF-6A oils are required, and "the older GF-5 don't make the cut". Which is false. Many (probably most) of the GF-5 synthetic blends oils also work, and meet/exceed Ford's specifications.

GF-6A has only been available for licensing since summer 2020. These EcoBoost have been around since 2010, and the Bronco's engines have been around since the 2015-2017 (ish).

Thanks, @RagnarKon. I appreciate your input. I'm a firm believer in preventive medicine. If I can spend more now to save later, I'm all for it and I've never skimped on my vehicle maintenance. To that end, the dealerships probably see me as a pushover (or worse) because I'm not afraid to (or unwilling to) spend just a little more to protect my investment, even if it is depreciating by the second. I just like to be able to say I did everything I could to preserve my vehicle's "health."

BuckYeah
Thanks, @RagnarKon. I appreciate your input. I'm a firm believer in preventive medicine. If I can spend more now to save later, I'm all for it and I've never skimped on my vehicle maintenance. To that end, the dealerships probably see me as a pushover (or worse) because I'm not afraid to (or unwilling to) spend just a little more to protect my investment, even if it is depreciating by the second. I just like to be able to say I did everything I could to preserve my vehicle's "health."

Yeah I 100% agree with that.

Phillips 66 is the OEM for Motorcraft oils, and both have the GF-6 rating that @extra toasty was posting about. The Full Synthetic is similar to Phillips 66 Shield Valor, and the Synthetic Blend is just Phillips 66 Shield Choice (I think, not 100% sure about the blend). You can't go wrong with either.

The Synthetic Blend that the dealer uses will be fine for most people, but if you want the next step up without completely breaking the bank or driving yourself crazy... just ask your dealer to use the Motorcraft Full Synthetic rather than Synthetic Blend. That's probably the easiest route if you can't do your own maintenance, and since it's a Motorcraft product it'll still be compatible with many of the maintenance packages they offer. If you dig too deep into the weeds on motor oil you can end up with analysis paralysis, start throwing money at the problem, and you'll end up spending 90% more on a special type of motor oil with only a 1-2% improvement.

Personally... I rather use a less premium motor oil and change my oil more often--4000 - 5000 miles or so. Better (in my opinion) than using a super duper ultra fancy ultra pricey motor oil and changing your oil every ~7500+ miles. But to each their own, I know there are some very smart people out there that will disagree with me.

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Sdge

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BuckYeah

Is it safe to assume that Ford dealers will use the best oil available for our Broncos? I don’t have the luxury of having a place to change my own oil. I’ve got to rely on dealers. I don’t care what it costs so long as they’re using the right oil and my warranty isn’t adversely affected. I spare no expense when it comes to maintenance.

'Best' is a tricky word. I think it's safe to say that the Ford dealership is going to use the specified oil for your Bronco. They are going to use something that is not going to void your warranty.

As far as not having the luxury... I politely changed mine in my luxuriant parking space :) Felt good.

BaBump

'Best' is a tricky word. I think it's safe to say that the Ford dealership is going to use the specified oil for your Bronco. They are going to use something that is not going to void your warranty.

As far as not having the luxury... I politely changed mine in my luxuriant parking space :) Felt good.

In a perfect world, I'd drain and replace the oil in my car at regular intervals, but I seem to keep finding apartment communities that frown on any kind of underhood tinkering. I really do need to buy a home in Seattle. Once I win the Powerball, that is.

RagnarKon

Dealers (and Ford themselves) use Motorcraft Synthetic Blend... usually comes in 205L drums.

The only exceptions to that rule are vehicles that come with supercharged engines such as Ford GT, Mustang GT500, and (I would assume) the F-150 Raptor R. Ford GT uses some special supercar motor oil (I think is manufactured by Castrol). The vehicles with the Predator engine use Motorcraft Full Synthetic.

And @Deano Bronc made a good point... you can usually supply your own oil. Although sometimes if you do that you miss out on the packaged deals (such as "The Works"), and it can cost more to use your own oil. Silly if you ask me but whatever.


Yeah I understand what you are saying, and you are correct GF-6A is generally inclusive of the Ford spec, and is also a better motor oil. But you also said that GF-6A oils are required, and "the older GF-5 don't make the cut". Which is false. Many (probably most) of the GF-5 synthetic blends oils also work, and meet/exceed Ford's specifications.

GF-6A has only been available for licensing since summer 2020. These EcoBoost have been around since 2010, and the Bronco's engines have been around since the 2015-2017 (ish).

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If the 2015 Mustang 2.3 EcoBoost had the GF-6 oil available at the time maybe it could have avoided being on this list of problem engines.

GF-6 oils are backward compatible. Don’t think GF-5’s are forward compatible.

Maybe there are GF-5 oils with the latest Ford spec on them. I don’t know. Even if there are GF-6’s are still superior…

I am going with the standard Motorcraft Syn-Blend. With all the additives in motor oils these days, as long as you are using a QUALITY BRANDED MOTOR OIL, then you are fine.

ILSAC Standard For Passenger Car Engine Oils
The current and previous ILSAC standards are listed here. Vehicle owners should refer to their owner’s manuals before consulting these charts. Oils may have more than one performance level.
For automotive gasoline engines, the latest ILSAC standard includes the performance properties of each earlier category and can be used to service older engines where earlier category oils were recommended.

Name​	Status​	Service​
GF-6A​	Current​	Introduced in May 2020, designed to provide protection against low-speed pre-ignition (LSPI), timing chain wear protection, improved high temperature deposit protection for pistons and turbochargers, more stringent sludge and varnish control, improved fuel economy, enhanced emission control system protection and protection of engines operating on ethanol-containing fuels up to E85.​
GF-6B​	Current​	Applies only to oils having an SAE viscosity grade of 0W-16. Introduced in May 2020, designed to provide protection against low-speed pre-ignition (LSPI), timing chain wear protection, high temperature deposit protection for pistons and turbochargers, stringent sludge and varnish control, improved fuel economy, emission control system protection and protection of engines operating on ethanol-containing fuels up to E85.​
GF-5​	Obsolete*​	Use GF-6A where GF-5 is recommended.​
GF-4​	Obsolete​	Use GF-5 where GF-4 is recommended.​
GF-3​	Obsolete​	Use GF-5 where GF-3 is recommended.​
GF-2​	Obsolete​	Use GF-5 where GF-2 is recommended.​
GF-1​	Obsolete​	Use GF-5 where GF-1 is recommended.​

*Obsolete on May 1, 2021

I totally copied these from the API website and is their property NOT mine.

Gasoline Engines
The current and previous API Service Categories are listed here. Vehicle owners should refer to their owner’s manuals before consulting these charts. Oils may have more than one performance level.
For automotive gasoline engines, the latest API Service Category includes the performance properties of each earlier category and can be used to service older engines where earlier category oils were recommended.
Note: The letters “SI”, “SK”, and “SO” have been omitted from the sequence of letter designations for API Service Categories because of their common association with other organizations or systems.

Category​	Status​	Service​
SP​	Current​	Introduced in May 2020, designed to provide protection against low-speed pre-ignition (LSPI), timing chain wear protection, improved high temperature deposit protection for pistons and turbochargers, and more stringent sludge and varnish control. API SP with Resource Conserving matches ILSAC GF-6A by combining API SP performance with improved fuel economy, emission control system protection and protection of engines operating on ethanol-containing fuels up to E85.​
SN​	Current​	For 2020 and older automotive engines​
SM​	Current​	For 2010 and older automotive engines.​
SL​	Current​	For 2004 and older automotive engines.​
SJ​	Current​	For 2001 and older automotive engines.​
SH​	Obsolete​	CAUTION: Not suitable for use in most gasoline-powered automotive engines built after 1996. May not provide adequate protection against build-up of engine sludge, oxidation, or wear.​
SG​	Obsolete​	CAUTION: Not suitable for use in most gasoline-powered automotive engines built after 1993. May not provide adequate protection against build-up of engine sludge, oxidation, or wear.​
SF​	Obsolete​	CAUTION: Not suitable for use in most gasoline-powered automotive engines built after 1988. May not provide adequate protection against build-up of engine sludge.​
SE​	Obsolete​	CAUTION: Not suitable for use in most gasoline-powered automotive engines built after 1979.​
SD​	Obsolete​	CAUTION: Not suitable for use in most gasoline-powered automotive engines built after 1971. Use in more modern engines may cause unsatisfactory performance or equipment harm.​
SC​	Obsolete​	CAUTION: Not suitable for use in most gasoline-powered automotive engines built after 1967. Use in more modern engines may cause unsatisfactory performance or equipment harm.​
SB​	Obsolete​	CAUTION: Not suitable for use in most gasoline-powered automotive engines built after 1951. Use in more modern engines may cause unsatisfactory performance or equipment harm.​
SA​	Obsolete​	CAUTION: Contains no additives. Not suitable for use in most gasoline-powered automotive engines built after 1930. Use in modern engines may cause unsatisfactory performance or equipment harm.​

I hope that this helps explain and also helps you pick what you want to use.

BE ADVISED: Not all SYNTHETIC LABELED MOTOR OILS START WITH A TRUE SYNTHETIC BASE STOCK!

BaBump

What motor oil are you intending to use for the life of your Bronco?

Thanks.

Mobile One fully synthetic.

Eninty

I doubt GF-6 has any significant or material effect on reducing engine wear. The new spec has more to do with current fuel compatibility and emissions standards.

I think it also has properties that claim to reduce timing chain wear. At least that’s what I read. Maybe mileage and a couple other important things. Read on…

As Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs) continue to strive for increased fuel economy and compliance with emission regulations, there becomes a need for new ILSAC standards.
To increase fuel economy, many OEMs have also begun using Turbocharged Gasoline Direct Injection (TGDI) engines, which are susceptible to the Low Speed Pre-Ignition (LSPI) phenomenon. Motor oils can be reformulated to help prevent LSPI, and the American Petroleum Institute (API) made the decision in 2017 to introduce a supplemental service category (API SN PLUS) to address this need while work on ILSAC GF-6 was being completed. The ILSAC GF-6 standard includes SAE 0W-16, addresses LSPI and includes protection against timing chain wear.
ILSAC has always tried to make its standards “evergreen,” which means they are backward-compatible, so when a new standard is activated, the previous standard becomes obsolete. That means the latest standard meets the needs of both new and prior engine technologies.
Additionally, previous ILSAC standards (such as GF-5) did not include the 0W-16 viscosity grade which will become more prevalent in the future. However, the new SAE 0W-16 viscosity grade has not been specified for most older engines, as most older engines are not equipped to operate with a lubricant at such a low viscosity. For this reason, ILSAC determined the need for an ILSAC GF-6A standard, which is backward-compatible, and an ILSAC GF-6B standard, which is ONLY for SAE 0W-16. Oils meeting the GF-6B standard will NOT be backward-compatible unless specified by an OEM, and this distinction will be noted clearly on eligible Pennzoil Platinum motor oil labels.

extra toasty

Cars Most Likely to Need an Engine Rebuild and What to Buy InsteadConsumer Reports shows the models most at risk for this expensive problem
By Jeff S. Bartlett and Steven ElekUpdated May 14, 2021

If the 2015 Mustang 2.3 EcoBoost had the GF-6 oil available at the time maybe it could have avoided being on this list of problem engines.

GF-6 oils are backward compatible. Don’t think GF-5’s are forward compatible.

Maybe there are GF-5 oils with the latest Ford spec on them. I don’t know. Even if there are GF-6’s are still superior…

If i am understanding this thread, doesnt this mean the Ultra Platinum listed by @RagnarKon is GF6? Or am I missing something

Mcinfantry

If i am understanding this thread, doesnt this mean the Ultra Platinum listed by @RagnarKon is GF6? Or am I missing something

It’s not really the question of which oils have the GF-6 rating. Anyone can read the label.
The question was “WHY” they are better to meet Ford specifications. Don’t believe GF-5’s make the grade…

I have put full-synthetic in my rigs since 2015 (maybe before)… might be overkill as I am not particularly hard on vehicles, but that’s what I‘ve done…. Last couple years I have had the dealership do my oil changes…. FordPass points

https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/

it's a worthy read!

scroll down/do a search for "MASTER WEAR PROTECTION RANKING LIST" You're Welcome.

Buschris

https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/

it's a worthy read!

scroll down/do a search for "MASTER WEAR PROTECTION RANKING LIST" You're Welcome.

I challenge anyone to get through the entire document.
So I scrolled down to your referenced section and it appears the best oil that he tested that is still current would be the TriboDyn, correct?
It appears that you can buy it on Amazon but at $20 a quart, I think I'll pass.

I wish he would keep the rankings current and get rid of all discontinued blends. It would be a whole lot less confusing.

Deano Bronc

I challenge anyone to get through the entire document.
So I scrolled down to your referenced section and it appears the best oil that he tested that is still current would be the TriboDyn, correct?
It appears that you can buy it on Amazon but at $20 a quart, I think I'll pass.
I wish he would keep the rankings current and get rid of all discontinued blends. It would be a whole lot less confusing.

Frank will give us a report