Is Ford Pass really a data collection app that FMC sells to 3rd parties?

frankgoss

@Laura

Here is a good question for your FORD Bronco contact;

Is FORD MOTOR COMPANY collecting my personal data, including personal Bronco vehicle data, driving records, ( when, how, where , how long at a location, etc ) and selling to third parties like automobile insurance companies, with the embedded, factory enabled modem and the FORD PASS APP. that transmitted that personal driving data it has collected ?

We know once we subscribe for $30.00 ATT connection to wifi internet, most web sites have privacy statements on our data.

However, Ford Pass App does not say we can elect not to have our vehicle data sold to third parties!

They can't if you are in California (you know, "Commiefornia", the place that's actually protecting your privacy rights in this situation). It's a state law. Otherwise, you're just out of luck.

Google, Ford, many big companies do stuff with your data that benefits them. I don't like it, but until laws are passed to stop it, they're going to keep making money off of us with every opportunity.

Also, Ford just got a patent on self-driving software, if I read correctly, that will enable a repossessed car to drive itself to the recovery facility if your payments are not made.

bek

Also, Ford just got a patent on self-driving software, if I read correctly, that will enable a repossessed car to drive itself to the recovery facility if your payments are not made.

Also allows hackers to steal it.

Bronco V-8

Also allows hackers to steal it.

Probably just one more way a hacker could steal a vehicle these days. They're going to have to firm up their IT barriers like Google has done.

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Most of the big companies "share" your data.

I spent a 36-year career working in IT, first as a developer, later as a manager, eventually as a CIO. I saw data collection you would not believe, and saw it given or sold to companies who had no business seeing that much personal data about people. I saw identities stolen by employees of the beneficiary companies, data thefts (legally, but not morally) shuffled under the rug, hidden from users, manipulated, and so on. Almost nobody ever got in real trouble, because a visible stink meant public embarrassment and, usually, a financial hit. People would quietly be "let go" and they would go quietly, because raising a fuss over something they did wrong--well, it was made clear there could be "legal consequences" to their actions. So you've got companies sharing data with each other, and in some cases, companies inadvertently sharing that data with employees, and those employees, rarely but occasionally, share that data with God knows who, and it keeps going from there. Your data is leaking all over the place.

Is your driving history making it to Geico, Progressive, State Farm, Farm Bureau, Erie, Allstate, USAA, Liberty, Farmers, Travelers, Nationwide, American Family? You'll probably never know. But they'll know.

This is not to say give me a tinfoil hat. Data goes where it goes. You generally can't stop it. I don't fret too much. Just be aware and maybe that laugh won't come back to haunt you someday. I guess it doesn't really matter. You'll never know what made that insurance premium go up... it'll just go up one day. And that insurance rep will just say, "Oh, it went up for everyone this year!"

loosen your tin foil hat a few notches.. I think it's cutting off circulation.

In all seriousness, I do believe there is some of that happening. I recently went on a trip to Florida and we had a Ram pickup truck for our rental car. Not once have I ever received a Ram advertisement anywhere on social media. But within 24 hours of connecting my phone via Bluetooth for music, I was getting ads out the wazoo. This was about two weeks after picking up my Bronco, so everything about the driving experience felt inferior. As long as they have those god awful knob style gear shifters, it's going to be a no thanks from me. I can't tell you how many times I accidentally adjusted the climate control while trying to shift out of park.