Badlands vs Badlands ... Help Me Make a (Nearly) Completely Subjective Choice

Laura
Sep 19, 2023

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Sep 19, 2023





So, I was passing by my dealer and saw a nice 2-door Bronco on the lot: 2021 Badlands, 2.7L / 10 speed, MGV, 11,450 miles, High, Sas, Tow ($54k)

Meanwhile, I own a nice 2-door Bronco: 2021 Badlands, 2.7L / 10 speed, MGV, 12,450 miles, Mid, Non-Sas, No Tow ($48k)

It was intriguing enough that I talked to them and test drove this incredibly same vehicle. I'm a little torn on what I want to do, because I have always wanted High package, and having the Tow package would be nice (Have I ever towed anything? No. Will I maybe one day want to tow something? Sure. Will I? 98% no 😁). However, I feel like getting Sasquatch would be a comprise -- you lose articulation, and (in my opinion), get less attractive fender flares and bumper add-ons, worse tires (replaceable, I know), and here comes the "nearly" qualifier in the subjective part -- raise your center of gravity slightly. I do want a roof rack on my Bronco at some point, further increasing it, and getting my kayak off will be harder, too.

Has anyone moved from a non-sas 2-door to a sas 2-door and still been happy off-road? Curious on your thoughts.
Also, that 12" screen is alarmingly big when you haven't been in a Bronco with one for a few months 😅 But I do like the idea of High.
2021 Oxford White 2-door non-Sas Mid package 2.7L/10-speed Badlands with MIC top
2021 Carbonized Gray 2-door Sas High package 2.7L/10-speed Badlands with MIC top
Keeping the Jeeps: stock '89 XJ and 3.5" lifted '00 XJ on 31s and '89 MJ
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STRESS FREE !!!

Sep 19, 2023

#20
And either Badlands will get me here:
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Current position. Had to share 😍

You'll definitely need the Raptor... or Good hiking shoes...
BroncOitis

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Sep 19, 2023

#21
That’s not a bad price!

No it's really not. It's a sad day when I've conditioned myself to think, oh, cheap! At $54k.
BroncOitis, Deano Bronc

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Sep 19, 2023

#22
I think you’ll love the high package and the 12” screen. It’s come handy for me more than once recently in placing “front corner” without the help of a spotter. It’s pretty dead one.

I had Carbonized Gray on order for the longest time but switched it recently to Cactus Gray (same as my current ride).

The Sasquatch Pkg is everything you want (and more).

The pricing seems reasonable - go for it and don’t look back!
NativeSoCal, BroncOitis

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Sep 19, 2023

#23
I think you’ll love the high package and the 12” screen. It’s come handy for me more than once recently in placing “front corner” without the help of a spotter. It’s pretty dead one.

I had Carbonized Gray on order for the longest time but switched it recently to Cactus Gray (same as my current ride).

The Sasquatch Pkg is everything you want (and more).

The pricing seems reasonable - go for it and don’t look back!

I feel like, should I want to sell, a buyer would prefer the 12" now that all 24s will have it, as well as Tow -- wiring our BN bronco looked like a nightmare. Plus Ford just dropped that from factory and is now a DIO. I typically tend to hold vehicles a long time though so that all may not matter. Especially depending on what any true refreshes bring.
BroncOitis, Deano Bronc

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Sep 20, 2023

#24
Still, I'm a sentimental person and there's something about your first. And I've known exactly how it has been driven and maintained since 700 miles.
Deano Bronc, Darrel

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Sep 20, 2023

#25
I want a Cherokee Briarwood, and continue to search Craigslist each morning. This one would do the trick too.

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Isn't that a Wagonner. I think you know that. Lol. I'd give my left mammary gland for a Wagoneer, Grand Wagoneer or Cherokee! AMC of course. They are beautiful imo.
As far as the Bronco, you should get it if you want it. If it were my decision, I would have to talk to my credit union. I can't afford to give up the 2.7 rate I got right now. Also, just don't quite have enough cash to go with a 1 payment plan.
BroncOitis, TK1215

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Sep 20, 2023

#26
Oh my. Sasquatch with tow is the way to go.
I have never ever seen anyone putting smaller tires on a Sasquatch. But have seen masses put bigger ones on everything else.
A head-turner with 4.7 ⚙️ gears baby!
BroncOitis, Deano Bronc

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Sep 20, 2023

#27
Isn't that a Wagonner. I think you know that. Lol. I'd give my left mammary gland for a Wagoneer, Grand Wagoneer or Cherokee! AMC of course. They are beautiful imo.
As far as the Bronco, you should get it if you want it. If it were my decision, I would have to talk to my credit union. I can't afford to give up the 2.7 rate I got right now. Also, just don't quite have enough cash to go with a 1 payment plan.

Yes it is! That post was confusing; I meant to say or this.
Yeah that's a great rate!
Chief Ron, Darrel

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Sep 20, 2023

#28
I have never ever seen anyone putting smaller tires on a Sasquatch. But have seen masses put bigger ones on everything else.

Very true!
Chief Ron, Darrel

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Sep 20, 2023

#29
Very true!

Just like everyone, I’m a bit biased.
Chief Ron, BroncOitis

That's a terrible idea, when do we start?

Sep 20, 2023

#30
I will say that the 360 cameras on the high pkg are very nice. They make parking in tight spots incredibly easy . Mine is a BL 2.7 non-Sas but if it did not have the high pkg I'd probably trade just for that,lol . Tires ,wheels , flares can be changed easily enough. That darker color tugs at my senses a bit better also :)

Yeah, the cameras come in handy offroad too. I was recently running a trail out near my house with a buddy that has a Jeep and he called on the radio asking me to slow down, especially on the curves! What he didn't know at the time was that I could see most of the way around the curves with the front camera. Now he has camera envy. 😁 The camera also comes in really handy on hill climbs. When you can't see over the hood, you can see on the camera. This is handy at the crest as well, especially if there's a short break over at the top. Again, I was out with a bunch of folks, and we had a small hill to climb. At the top you had to make a sharp right, or you went off a cliff. The first guy up in the Jeep almost went over! He called back on the radio so everyone knew, but I had the camera on so I could easily see what was up as I approached the top.
Chief Ron, BroncOitis

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Sep 20, 2023

#31
I am on the SAS, high train as well. The tow isn't that big a deal because for about $200 you can add the hitch and wiring. The SAS lift along with the 35s and the use of cameras on some obstacles really helps me. Also if you ever want to go 37s it is a lot easier. Both are awesome rigs.
Chief Ron, BroncOitis

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Sep 20, 2023

#32
"Nothing succeeds like excess."
Go for the Sas/High. If you're lucky, a Sas/Lux will show up. My story:
Until the Bronco came out, I had been drooling over Jeeps, ogling them on the street, on line, and in promotional literature. I finally told the wife that finances and "life situation" were good, and I put a deposit on a 4DR Badlands/Hardtop/High/No tow/Cactus Gray. I was willing to wait, but my then-current ride (Sienna XLE/Ltd, kids grown) started getting serious repair issues. The last: A $1600 fix on two sliding doors for a car worth $3500 max.

Another dealer texted me (May 2022), reporting two cancellations: a Wildtrak and a Badlands, both at obscene dealer markup. The Wildtrak went right away. I visited the dealer the next day, and there was no budging on the markup. The most they could do was not deduct the door repair costs from my trade in. "You've been looking at Jeeps for years," my wife said. (Imprudently--right in front of the salesman!). That was her signal I had her "permission," and the unfortunate tell for the salesman that he had me. I took out my credit card, and put $5K deposit down (the most they'd accept on a card--bank fees, you know. Also my reward points).

I'm embarassed to tell you what the markup was, but I have no regrets. I was turning 75, and feeling awfully entitled. Also, I was able to drive it cross-country* to Moab and other Utah points. I've found I've utilized more of the Sasquatch/Lux package than I ever expected to.

Concluding point: By buying more truck than you currently expect to use, you allow yourself the option of more aggressive, adventurous off-roading. "Oh, I don't expect to tow," I said to myself. But then I needed to rent some power equipment, and using an open-U-Haul was cheaper than paying for delivery and pickup. I expected to just use hard-scrabble National Forest dirt roads, but my Sas package let me do genuine cross-country ("overlanding") in truly remote west-central Utah.

Go for it, lady. And if a Lux shows up--up your game!

*Crosscountry: I mean driving across the United States, but also offroading completely away from any kind of vehicle path.
BroncOitis, Laura

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Sep 20, 2023

#33
@Laura stop talking yourself out of the Sasquatch W/12” screen!🤣🤣🤣🤣
The one traded in has probably never seen dirt! Whooooo, get her done!
Chief Ron, BroncOitis

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Sep 20, 2023

#34
Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. Squatch is a bargain for what you get. Coming from a guy who buried an f250 in a snow bank...
Chief Ron, BroncOitis

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Sep 20, 2023

#35
I haven't owned a squatch, but the stance and look of it is far superior IMO. Aftermarket goes along way but as far as factory looks the SAS Bronco is one of the best in many years. I do have the HIGH LUX and it is amazing! The screen is great, though is very bright and occasionally distracting when backing up in the dark when using your actual eyes to view surroundings. I believe high automatically has 360° cameras? If so the front Camera is immensely useful for visibility when cresting hills and for spotting. This has been my favorite offroad feature. The front Camera can help with road driving too, if stuck at a light it gives a wider range of visibility then the naked eye, i.e. you're stuck at a red light where the angle of the road and the windshield requires contorting to see when the light turns green or its too bright out to see the light. The camera shows the light clearly. Both are 2 door hardtop so that's a win-win. There's is something about personally knowing the history and maintenance of a vehicle that is invaluable, particularly on a vehicle that could be sitting at a dealership for months awaiting parts. Personally I like the white. Another thing is what value would they give you on yours and (if financing) will they let you do a transfer of collateral to use your original loan terms on the new vehicle? You will likely take a huge hit on interest in today's market. Oddly enough price wise its essentially a wash as with inflation it takes $54,150.49 to get what $48000 got you about a year and a half ago. If it were me and I did trade it I would definitely try to get an extended warranty or Ford ESP thrown in given the unknowns and list of known issues. I would also look into (as with Sirius radio) does new owner mean new connected navigation services trial. The Lux has this for 3 years high has for 3 months. I didn't think I'd use it but I prefer it over my phones nav. It is integrated and amazing it can book mark places you visit and you can set it to use or avoid 4x4 roads to get where you're going. The BEST feature in the nav is when going wild in unmarked areas it leaves bread crumbs so if you go off roading or duning you can retrace your steps effortlessly. I love the screen. The day @Ford Motor Company goes completely iPad looking dashes like the Sport, Tesla ect. Is the day I never buy a Ford again. My wife would be driving a sport right now if it had a real dash.
Chief Ron, BuckYeah

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Sep 20, 2023

#36
I like your white Bronco! I say keep what you have. You already know there is more money that you'll end up spending on tires, and you don't like the flares on the other Bronco. Is getting the 360 camera, tow, and extra clearance really worth all the extra money? Just my 2 cents.
BuckYeah, Laura

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Sep 20, 2023

#37
Do it! 🍻
Chief Ron, BroncOitis

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Sep 20, 2023

#38
Just a thought... not sure it is a pro or a con for you but.... did you know that the tow package from the factory on a two door actually has different rear springs? Not true on the 4 door but it is on the two door. A two door with factory tow gets the same rear springs as the 4 door. Non-tow gets a different spring rate/part number.
BroncOitis, Jakob1972

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Sep 20, 2023

#39
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I think the real question is do you ever plan on adding the snow plow package?
Chief Ron, MarkB

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