Super Cel East Underhood vs ARB Twin 12V Compressor Kit?

TK1215

Never owned any RC products. The negatives I have read about are usually with steel bumpers etc, being prone to rust.

I love Ford's but after a matter of months the undercarriages always look rusty. They still keep doing what they need to.

OrangecrushBronco

I love Ford's but after a matter of months the undercarriages always look rusty. They still keep doing what they need to.

I don't think I've ever had an RC product develop any serious rust but I've never used their bumpers. I have used their side steps, nerf bars and other metal products from them w/o issue for over 35+ years and counting.

I will say that most RC welds I've seen are kind rough and are not the prettiest to look at most of the time. If someone is building a Mall King/Queen then RC might not be for them. Nothing wrong with a Mall King/Queen just not for me..

The RC High Winch Mount I just installed a few days ago is kind of rough looking at the weld points and they are not pretty. Fine by me as it's a Bronco, made to get out off road, and it's gonna take damage over time anyways. The welds are not bad in a failure way, they just don't look pretty enough for a Mall King/Queen..

I've seen high end and very expensive gear with bad welds, that rust, and that fail.. I watched a YT video a few weeks ago where the guy had very expensive rock rails and after a moderate rocky area of the trail they had bent up so badly that he could not even open the door on his Bronco.. If those had been RC the comment section would have blown up but since they were __insert brand name here__ they get a pass...

No I don't work for RC, no I don't care if people bash them, and no I don't care if anyone purchases their products.. I just don't get the hate they get from some in the 4x4 community as I don't think it's warranted..

raqball

I don't think I've ever had an RC product develop any serious rust but I've never used their bumpers. I have used their side steps, nerf bars and other metal products from them w/o issue for over 35+ years and counting.

I will say that most RC welds I've seen are kind rough and are not the prettiest to look at most of the time. If someone is building a Mall King/Queen then RC might not be for them. Nothing wrong with a Mall King/Queen just not for me..

The RC High Winch Mount I just installed a few days ago is kind of rough looking at the weld points and they are not pretty. Fine by me as it's a Bronco, made to get out off road, and it's gonna take damage over time anyways. The welds are not bad in a failure way, they just don't look pretty enough for a Mall King/Queen..

I've seen high end and very expensive gear with bad welds, that rust, and that fail.. I watched a YT video a few weeks ago where the guy had very expensive rock rails and after a moderate rocky area of the trail they had bent up so badly that he could not even open the door on his Bronco.. If those had been RC the comment section would have blown up but since they were __insert brand name here__ they get a pass...

No I don't work for RC, no I don't care if people bash them, and no I don't care if anyone purchases their products.. I just don't get the hate they get from some in the 4x4 community as I don't think it's warranted..

Yep, zero problems from any of my RC products.

OrangecrushBronco

I really like my nudge bar, sturdy and doesn't obstruct Bronco script on grille. I imagine their tailgate table has to better then the Ford one that has the weakest cables.

I think it really comes down to a good, better, best issue. They hit a price point, sell some products, if they don’t work out, people move to something else. I believe the “Hate” is the many people that have bought, and had a bad experience. In the end, do what’s best for your rig and budget.

Adrenalin

I believe the “Hate” is the many people that have bought, and had a bad experience.

Where are all these people at who've had a bad RC experience? All I ever see are posts with no facts about the 'issues', no data about the 'issues' etc to back it up, just as a matter of fact blanket statements.

Every manufacturer has issues with products.. Every single one of them! I scour a lot of forums, Jeep forums included and I've never seen all these people, en masse, who have bought, had issue, and had a bad experience.

If it were so bad these forums would be flooded with complaints, photos etc yet they are not. Most people are happy with the RC gear. It's also the internet and some people make things up so they can join whatever the current bandwagon is..

Anyways, not looking to pick a fight but I don't think RC is as bad some make them out to be..

There are things I'd happily buy from RC and there are things I would not.. Everyone should do their own research into a variety of brands before making a purchasing choice. Higher $$$$ does not always = better quality..

I use the m18 inflator from Milwaukee it takes me roughly 6 minutes a tire to go from 10 to 39 psi but I did also have plenty of batteries already lol

raqball

Where are all these people at who've had a bad RC experience? All I ever see are posts with no facts about the 'issues', no data about the 'issues' etc to back it up, just as a matter of fact blanket statements.

Every manufacturer has issues with products.. Every single one of them! I scour a lot of forums, Jeep forums included and I've never seen all these people, en masse, who have bought, had issue, and had a bad experience.

If it were so bad these forums would be flooded with complaints, photos etc yet they are not. Most people are happy with the RC gear. It's also the internet and some people make things up so they can join whatever the current bandwagon is..

Anyways, not looking to pick a fight but I don't think RC is as bad some make them out to be..

There are things I'd happily buy from RC and there are things I would not.. Everyone should do their own research into a variety of brands before making a purchasing choice. Higher $$$$ does not always = better quality..

Yeah, I honestly hear more complaints about Ford products, granted there are far more of them but I'd say on shear percentages RC has fewer issues. Brands also evolve I remeber having terrible Dewalt and Milwaukee products but now I'm super happy with their newer stuff. Maybe RC had some misses but from my experience they've done the job and held up.

raqball

Back in the 80's I ran with a scuba tank for a while.. LOL..

You could always opt for something like a Thor system but they are not that much less than an ARB kit.. Or I guess you could DIY something with a bracket to keep the tank in place.

I run a Co2 system. The Thor system is just overkill and really only valuable if someone around you will refill tanks. Most welding supply shops can't refill tanks, they just do exchange. I pay about $35 per exchange for a 10lb tank. The initial cost to get started was around $250 at the welding store. Don't get the regulator they have there, skip it and add a preece precision high flow regulator valve (won't freeze up). Doesn't take more than a few moments to fill a tire up from 12psi to 38psi, less than a minute. My grandkids can do it. I need to get a bracket made for it. For now I strap it down to the anchor points in the back of the bronco to make it very secure.

OrangecrushBronco

Yeah, I honestly hear more complaints about Ford products, granted there are far more of them but I'd say on shear percentages RC has fewer issues. Brands also evolve I remeber having terrible Dewalt and Milwaukee products but now I'm super happy with their newer stuff. Maybe RC had some misses but from my experience they've done the job and held up.

They sell a lot of gear and if it were so bad these forums (and other forums) would be flooded with images, videos etc showing the shoddy products. They simply don't exist except in isolated cases.

Sure there are some with issues but as I said earlier, every manufacture has issues here and there..

I had a Warn winch on my previous Jeep that failed the 2nd time I used it. Warn was great and fixed it but it did fail on it's 2nd use. Does that make Warn a trash company? Nope....

As I previously mentioned, I watched a video where some highly regarded and very expensive rock rails bent up so badly that the driver could not even open the door. I think it might have been a Lite Brite video but can't remember...

Another Overlander I sub to purchased Icon Tie Rods. They sent him a faulty product that failed on the trail. The aftermath of that failure showed his steering rack was absolutely destroyed.

The issue: Video starts at 25:55



The aftermath video:



Sure it was partially his fault but the majority of the fault lies with Icon..

The most disturbing part of the aftermath video for me is where he says he can't get in contact with Icon and that they refuse to answer his support email etc.. That is extremely troubling!

Does that make Icon a trash company? Nope.. But I personally would not buy from them due to the absolute lack of support.

When my RC High Winch mount order arrived it was not a winch mount and instead was a front end lift kit for a Toyota. I called RC and the phone was answered within minutes and I was taken care of, no problem!

I can go on and on but I digress...

I think most of the hate is from people who've never owned RC products and just follow along with what they've been told to believe.. Or maybe they did own a RC product, it had an issue, then they decided to jump on the anti RC bandwagon even though other companies they've had similar issues with are give a pass..

My high winch mount, in some areas, looks like it was welded by a guy/gal who is blind in one eye and can't see out the other but I've seen bad looking welds on some pretty expensive gear as well in the past..

Okay, enough of the dissertation on why I don't get the hate..

mike8675309

I run a Co2 system. The Thor system is just overkill and really only valuable if someone around you will refill tanks. Most welding supply shops can't refill tanks, they just do exchange. I pay about $35 per exchange for a 10lb tank. The initial cost to get started was around $250 at the welding store. Don't get the regulator they have there, skip it and add a preece precision high flow regulator valve (won't freeze up). Doesn't take more than a few moments to fill a tire up from 12psi to 38psi, less than a minute. My grandkids can do it. I need to get a bracket made for it. For now I strap it down to the anchor points in the back of the bronco to make it very secure.

Nice! When I ran with the scuba tank (I think it was in my YJ - late 80's) I just had it bungeed down to the roll bars but it still would bounce around a bit. Prob not the safest option on the planet but I was young and dumb back then.. LOL

There are several places within 20 miles or so of me that will refill your Co2 tanks (no swap) so that's not an issue for me...

mike8675309

I'm surprised I don't see more people talking about Co2 systems rather than compressors. Is it just the consumable nature of the gas or the recurring cost?

Just say'n............





Takes all 4 tires from 15-35 PSI in less than 90 seconds.

THE Buckeye Bronco

Just say'n............

Takes all 4 tires from 15-35 PSI in less than 90 seconds.

Nice! I am actually considering a Power Tank system as well.. I'd prob go with the 5lb tank as that is plenty for me. I keep going back and forth between the ARB, the Morrflate and the Power Tank...

At some point I need to make a decision...

THE Buckeye Bronco

Just say'n............
Takes all 4 tires from 15-35 PSI in less than 90 seconds.

Very nice. I've really been focusing on controlling my Bronco expenses. And prioritizing things.
With the base version, here is the order I'm doing things.
#1 Recovery gear (done recovery strap, soft shackles) should someone be with me
#2 Full Skidplates (done RCI Metalworks)
#3 Air down/Air Up equipment (done lease tank plus high flow regulator, still need to mount)
#4 Self Recovery gear (planning hidden Winch, likely will include new front bumper)
#5 New rear bumper (depends on front bumper)
#6 Audio system upgrade
#7 new wheels and 37's

mike8675309

Very nice. I've really been focusing on controlling my Bronco expenses. And prioritizing things.
With the base version, here is the order I'm doing things.
#1 Recovery gear (done recovery strap, soft shackles) should someone be with me
#2 Full Skidplates (done RCI Metalworks)
#3 Air down/Air Up equipment (done lease tank plus high flow regulator, still need to mount)
#4 Self Recovery gear (planning hidden Winch, likely will include new front bumper)
#5 New rear bumper (depends on front bumper)
#6 Audio system upgrade
#7 new wheels and 37's

RCI makes excellent products

mike8675309

#4 Self Recovery gear (planning hidden Winch, likely will include new front bumper)
#5 New rear bumper (depends on front bumper)

I had Warn front and rear bumpers on my JL that were great! The front was a stubby and while it was not a hidden winch, it was hardly visible.. They were great bumpers!

raqball

I had Warn front and rear bumpers on my JL that were great! The front was a stubby and while it was not a hidden winch, it was hardly visible.. They were great bumpers!

Nice. I've got my eye on the lobo offroad HNT front bumper and hidden winch setup. HF Apex winch is in the lead right now.

raqball

Where are all these people at who've had a bad RC experience? All I ever see are posts with no facts about the 'issues', no data about the 'issues' etc to back it up, just as a matter of fact blanket statements.

Every manufacturer has issues with products.. Every single one of them! I scour a lot of forums, Jeep forums included and I've never seen all these people, en masse, who have bought, had issue, and had a bad experience.

If it were so bad these forums would be flooded with complaints, photos etc yet they are not. Most people are happy with the RC gear. It's also the internet and some people make things up so they can join whatever the current bandwagon is..

Anyways, not looking to pick a fight but I don't think RC is as bad some make them out to be..

There are things I'd happily buy from RC and there are things I would not.. Everyone should do their own research into a variety of brands before making a purchasing choice. Higher $$$$ does not always = better quality..

raqball

Where are all these people at who've had a bad RC experience? All I ever see are posts with no facts about the 'issues', no data about the 'issues' etc to back it up, just as a matter of fact blanket statements.

Every manufacturer has issues with products.. Every single one of them! I scour a lot of forums, Jeep forums included and I've never seen all these people, en masse, who have bought, had issue, and had a bad experience.

If it were so bad these forums would be flooded with complaints, photos etc yet they are not. Most people are happy with the RC gear. It's also the internet and some people make things up so they can join whatever the current bandwagon is..

Anyways, not looking to pick a fight but I don't think RC is as bad some make them out to be..

There are things I'd happily buy from RC and there are things I would not.. Everyone should do their own research into a variety of brands before making a purchasing choice. Higher $$$$ does not always = better quality..

Sorry that I can't give you all the name's, part numbers, for the others that don't like RC parts. Just look at the responses on this thread. There in here. It's ok if you like and use them. Just not for everyone. Bronco Nation has dozens of parts and supplier's on this site for all of us to access with a discount. I don't recall seeing RC in that extensive list. I hope that helps. Take a deep breath and relax.

Adrenalin

Sorry that I can't give you all the name's, part numbers, for the others that don't like RC parts. Just look at the responses on this thread. There in here. It's ok if you like and use them. Just not for everyone. Bronco Nation has dozens of parts and supplier's on this site for all of us to access with a discount. I don't recall seeing RC in that extensive list. I hope that helps. Take a deep breath and relax.

I think RC makes decent parts. Some of their parts are just perfect. Others, will do the job but others make similar for quite a bit higher cost but not necessarily as much benefit. Their hidden winch was on my list until I've seen a couple that people took offroad and hit some stuff. I just want a little more clearance. Their tie rods look really good, though I'm aware enough that fixing the tie rods without addressing the steering rack won't end well.

I figure most of the people buying broncos are not people who have done a bunch of work on their own vehicles their entire life. More of those people by RC stuff and since they aren't used to how not every aftermarket part fits perfect, or looks perfect, they give RC stuff shit. The reality is most aftermarket stuff generally will have one issue or another that you might need to address. For sure things that are welded. So in the end what we are seeing is just a lot of people who just aren't used to the industry.

Adrenalin

Sorry that I can't give you all the name's, part numbers, for the others that don't like RC parts. Just look at the responses on this thread. There in here. It's ok if you like and use them. Just not for everyone. Bronco Nation has dozens of parts and supplier's on this site for all of us to access with a discount. I don't recall seeing RC in that extensive list. I hope that helps. Take a deep breath and relax.

You are the one slamming a company with absolutely nothing other than word, not me.. Perhaps it is you who needs to calm down and relax.

Responses on this thread? Are we reading the same thread? I've not seen anyone but you attack them and I've not seen anyone but you claim issues. Quite the opposite actually.. A few have said they've never had issue.

Since you've had issues with them in the past can you post images/video of the shoddy product you've received? Jeep, and I assume Bronco peeps, who are active on forums always take photos and video of crappy products, defects and issues so I assume you have a ton to share re: shoddy RC products. I look forward to seeing these photos / videos and the story behind them.

What does RC not being on the BN Nation discount list have to do with anything? Are you suggesting that any company not on the list needs to be trashed w/o any real evidence of widespread issues? I certainly hope not...

mike8675309

Nice. I've got my eye on the lobo offroad HNT front bumper and hidden winch setup. HF Apex winch is in the lead right now.

Nice! I'll keep an eye out for photos after you make a choice and get it mounted up.. 👍