Black Diamond wheel/tire upgrade question

robrod802
May 25, 2023

Rank 0

May 25, 2023

My Black Diamond will be arriving soon with 17" steel wheels (17 x 7.5) and P265/70R17 (32") tires. The stock setup. I think this will be a good setup for winter but for the summer I'd like to have a different set of rims and a little larger tire to fill the wheel well a bit more. For tires I'm thinking P285/70 R17 (about 33") or P285/75R17 (about 34"). I'm fairly confident the P285/70/R17 will fit without any clearance or rubbing issues since that's what's run on the non SAS badlands. I'm not sure if the P285/75/R17 will have clearance or rubbing issues?

For rims I'd like to stick with Ford factory rims which means my options are the base badlands (17 x 7.5) with a +55 offset or the Sasquatch 17 x 8.5 which have a +30 offset. I was going to use the optional (bead lock capable) non SAS Badlands 17 x 8 with +55 offset rims but turns out they are hard to find. I don't really care much for the Badlands base 17 x 7.5 rims but I like the 17 x 8.5 sasquatch rims and they are very easy to find. My question. Has anyone tried this tire size on a sasquatch rim with the Black Diamond trim level and if you have were there any clearance or rubbing issues? The offset calculator says the tire will sit about 1 3/8" farther out with the +30 offset and new tire size so that might mean I would need SAS flares? Before I start ordering up product I just want to be sure the tire/rim combination will work without issue.

Thanks
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Gladesmen

May 26, 2023

#1
I think the Sasquatch wheels with 33” would fit nice on the black Diamond. If local laws allow I don’t think you need the Sasquatch flares unless you don’t want that much poke. Probably gotta take the crash bars off.
Bronco Nation 1100. Everglades, Desert Sand
Res: 7/30/20 ordered 1/22/21 reorder 10/15/21 changed to Everglades 3/9/22 schedule 8/29/22 bumped to 9/5; 9/7/22 blend, 9/9 Mods, 9/26/22 completed, 10/7 shipped, 11/3/22 delivery
Roughstock11

Rank VI

May 26, 2023

#2
I think you need to wait until it comes in before you go snagging an extra set of rims and rubber unless you come across a hell of a deal. I had the same hesitation before I received mine in 9/21. The only Black Diamond I had seen was from pictures online and from a Bronco Nation soft top takedown instruction video.

I will admit that if you squat down and look level at the gap in the well, it can look vacuous, but once you walk up to it I believe your fears will be unfounded. The Generals are very aggressive looking and so far (25k miles in) the tread has held up incredibly well. The only complaint you can have on them is that they collect small rocks and gravel incredibly well.

I hope you love your Bronco.
And welcome to the BD club!
Roughstock11, Jakob1972

I trust the dirt

May 26, 2023

#3
I think the Sasquatch wheels with 33” would fit nice on the black Diamond. If local laws allow I don’t think you need the Sasquatch flares unless you don’t want that much poke. Probably gotta take the crash bars off.
I have 35"s on my Black Diamond and the rims/tires stick out I guess a couple of inches and I actually like the look. The truck looks better to me with a smaller flare. I have noticed the rear flare is getting chewed up from rocks from the front rim. I am not sure if a larger flare would stop that or not. I don't mind the rear flare getting chewed up. The paint on the rear quarter panel is good so far and perhaps there is a small chip in the rock rails close to the rear flare. That doesn't bother me either. I understand some have concerns about poke for various reasons and it is all good either way. No crash bars as mentioned above.
23 Bronco Raptor, code orange belts, keyless, lux, leather trim/suede seats, carbon fibre, shadow black
SLFilms Bronco

Rank 0

May 26, 2023

#4
Thanks TitsLaRue. Love the color........wish it were still available. I might wait a bit before I do any mods. I like the BD steel wheel/grabber tire look more so than the Base, BB or OB look. I don't do a lot of off-roading so I don't have a need for 35's and the SAS package but I like the look of a larger tire. Trying to balance a look I like with the practicality that this will mostly be a paved and dirt road vehicle.

Gladesmen

May 26, 2023

#5
I have 35"s on my Black Diamond and the rims/tires stick out I guess a couple of inches and I actually like the look. The truck looks better to me with a smaller flare. I have noticed the rear flare is getting chewed up from rocks from the front rim. I am not sure if a larger flare would stop that or not. I don't mind the rear flare getting chewed up. The paint on the rear quarter panel is good so far and perhaps there is a small chip in the rock rails close to the rear flare. That doesn't bother me either. I understand some have concerns about poke for various reasons and it is all good either way. No crash bars as mentioned above.
Yeah the Sasquatch flares don’t do much to protect the rear flare from getting beat up. It could be the Everglades flairs as those are a tad different than the regular Sasquatch flare. (My specific situation) Maybe mud flaps will help the matter but I am not a fan of flaps so I live with having gnarly rear flares. I don’t mind the character it adds.
Bronco Nation 1100. Everglades, Desert Sand
Res: 7/30/20 ordered 1/22/21 reorder 10/15/21 changed to Everglades 3/9/22 schedule 8/29/22 bumped to 9/5; 9/7/22 blend, 9/9 Mods, 9/26/22 completed, 10/7 shipped, 11/3/22 delivery

Rank V

Jul 05, 2023

#6
I have 35"s on my Black Diamond and the rims/tires stick out I guess a couple of inches and I actually like the look. The truck looks better to me with a smaller flare. I have noticed the rear flare is getting chewed up from rocks from the front rim. I am not sure if a larger flare would stop that or not. I don't mind the rear flare getting chewed up. The paint on the rear quarter panel is good so far and perhaps there is a small chip in the rock rails close to the rear flare. That doesn't bother me either. I understand some have concerns about poke for various reasons and it is all good either way. No crash bars as mentioned above.
Thanks for the reply above. Have you done are are you considering the Performace Calibration, new axel and Half Shafts upgrades?

https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-9603-B23
https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-3002-446BF
https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-3429-BR

Wondering about stress on the stock configurations

I trust the dirt

Jul 05, 2023

#7
Thanks for the reply above. Have you done are are you considering the Performace Calibration, new axel and Half Shafts upgrades?

https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-9603-B23
https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-3002-446BF
https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-3429-BR

Wondering about stress on the stock configurations

Cool. I like the idea of the performance tune as well. I tried to do it on my Black Diamond. We tried three times at the dealer. The first time they figured the code's were hacked since the install was telling us it was already installed. Then the next time the mechanic was on the phone with Ford and couldn't do it and the third time it was supposed to be sorted and Ford had sent the wrong tune or something like that so it couldn't be installed. A good dealer and good mechanic not their fault.

I think the tune would be good especially on the 2.3. More torque. I haven't looked into anything else since I am trading in my Black Diamond in a few weeks.
23 Bronco Raptor, code orange belts, keyless, lux, leather trim/suede seats, carbon fibre, shadow black

Rank IV

Jul 05, 2023

#8
I have the option black alloy wheels, which are (nearly?) the same size as your steel rims, with mud/snow tires. Perhaps you can find a set used.
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2021 Black Diamond - 2Door - Black - Manual
Res: 09/20 Order: 01/21 Delivered: 12/21

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