In-Vehicle Safe

tedmacomber

Only took 10 minutes to install.

Is the safe part of the storage are under the cargo area floor? Does it take up the entire area?

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tedmacomber

Only took 10 minutes to install.

Is the safe part of the storage are under the cargo area floor? Does it take up the entire area?

There is already a small area under the cargo mat for storage. The safe just bolts in to that area. No space is lost except a small amount near the top lip. I added the foam to keep things from bouncing around.

tedmacomber

There is already a small area under the cargo mat for storage. The safe just bolts in to that area. No space is lost except a small amount near the top lip. I added the foam to keep things from bouncing around.

Thanks for the info.

tedmacomber

There is already a small area under the cargo mat for storage. The safe just bolts in to that area. No space is lost except a small amount near the top lip. I added the foam to keep things from bouncing around.

Have you had any issues with condensation in the storage area? I ask because some folks have reported it being real wet in that storage area. It was not clear if it is related to a leak from the top or condensation due to humidity.
I like this set up quite a bit, but don't want to lock up anything that may get rusted up.

That is super cool. Nice job with the install.

How flunky is the actual lock? I wouldn't' store firearms in that safe, especially here in CA where there are regulatory standards for gun safes. Make sure you check your state's laws regarding firearm storage.

mbagne

How flunky is the actual lock? I wouldn't' store firearms in that safe, especially here in CA where there are regulatory standards for gun safes. Make sure you check your state's laws regarding firearm storage.

most states if not all, will accept this and pretty sure, CA will to, especially if you dont have a CC.

I think if you have fire arms you have to have some secure storage. It is either good steel in your hot hand or lock it up.

You get a call kid sick at school got to go in to pick them up. You could take a chance and put the weapon loose under the seat. Better lock it up then no talking to lawyers or police. I hate talking to lawyers especially if I am paying them.

I am hoping Tuffy makes some under the seat locking drawers. I have those in a Jeep they work well. I can unlock the draw put an item in or out without having to get out from behind the wheel.


Besides firearms. A secure place for a wallet while and the beach especially if you have a soft top or top off.

Expensive but you can never have enough secure storage. Looks like crap but an ammo can, lock and chain will also work. Just modify the can so you can put a lock on it.

If you ever have a time that you cannot carry and cannot lock it up. Consider removing firing pin if possible or at least use a trigger lock.

RJames

I think if you have fire arms you have to have some secure storage. It is either good steel in your hot hand or lock it up.

You get a call kid sick at school got to go in to pick them up. You could take a chance and put the weapon loose under the seat. Better lock it up then no talking to lawyers or police. I hate talking to lawyers especially if I am paying them.

I am hoping Tuffy makes some under the seat locking drawers. I have those in a Jeep they work well. I can unlock the draw put an item in or out without having to get out from behind the wheel.


Besides firearms. A secure place for a wallet while and the beach especially if you have a soft top or top off.

Expensive but you can never have enough secure storage. Looks like crap but an ammo can, lock and chain will also work. Just modify the can so you can put a lock on it.

If you ever have a time that you cannot carry and cannot lock it up. Consider removing firing pin if possible or at least use a trigger lock.

What's the old Fram commercial...Pay me now...or pay me later!!

lonzo71

most states if not all, will accept this and pretty sure, CA will to, especially if you dont have a CC.

Well, here's from the CA regulation for firearm storage:

1. The lock shall be protected by a case hardened (Rc 60+) drill resistant steel plate, or drill resistant material of equivalent strength.
2. Boltwork shall consist of a minimum of three steel locking bolts of at least 1/2-inch thickness that intrude from the door of the safe into the body of the safe or from the body of the safe into the door of the safe, which are operated by a separate handle and secured by the lock.
3. The exterior walls shall be constructed of a minimum 12-gauge thick steel for a single walled safe, or the sum of the steel walls shall add up to at least 0.100 inches for safes with two walls. Doors shall be constructed of a minimum one layer of 7-gauge steel plate reinforced construction or at least two layers of a minimum 12-gauge steel compound construction.
4. Door hinges shall be protected to prevent the removal of the door. Protective features include, but are not limited to: hinges not exposed to the outside, interlocking door designs, dead bars, jeweler's lugs and active or inactive locking bolts.
5. A gun safe that is able to fully contain firearms and provide for their secure storage, and is certified to/listed as meeting Underwriters Laboratories Residential Security Container rating standards by a Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory (NRTL).

I am not sure if the Bronco safe meets all that criteria. Normally I wouldn't be worried about it, but CA is really cracking down on this issue lately due to the higher rates of gun theft and also higher rates on unintended people (i.e. children/teenagers) getting their hands on supposedly "locked" guns. If someone is just placing a firearm in the Bronco safe to transport to a shooting range and back, that's fine, but any length of "storage" there would likely be problematic. You might be a responsible enough gun owner to not actually store your firearm in a car, but needless to say there are many out there who will. Just saying.

I may have missed the info on my question, but is the safe for the 2 door, 4 door, or both?

mbagne

Well, here's from the CA regulation for firearm storage:

1. The lock shall be protected by a case hardened (Rc 60+) drill resistant steel plate, or drill resistant material of equivalent strength.
2. Boltwork shall consist of a minimum of three steel locking bolts of at least 1/2-inch thickness that intrude from the door of the safe into the body of the safe or from the body of the safe into the door of the safe, which are operated by a separate handle and secured by the lock.
3. The exterior walls shall be constructed of a minimum 12-gauge thick steel for a single walled safe, or the sum of the steel walls shall add up to at least 0.100 inches for safes with two walls. Doors shall be constructed of a minimum one layer of 7-gauge steel plate reinforced construction or at least two layers of a minimum 12-gauge steel compound construction.
4. Door hinges shall be protected to prevent the removal of the door. Protective features include, but are not limited to: hinges not exposed to the outside, interlocking door designs, dead bars, jeweler's lugs and active or inactive locking bolts.
5. A gun safe that is able to fully contain firearms and provide for their secure storage, and is certified to/listed as meeting Underwriters Laboratories Residential Security Container rating standards by a Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory (NRTL).

I am not sure if the Bronco safe meets all that criteria. Normally I wouldn't be worried about it, but CA is really cracking down on this issue lately due to the higher rates of gun theft and also higher rates on unintended people (i.e. children/teenagers) getting their hands on supposedly "locked" guns. If someone is just placing a firearm in the Bronco safe to transport to a shooting range and back, that's fine, but any length of "storage" there would likely be problematic. You might be a responsible enough gun owner to not actually store your firearm in a car, but needless to say there are many out there who will. Just saying.

NP! I know California has some crazy gun laws. Just like Maryland and NY. I’m so glad I’ve moved away from Maryland, and I wont be visiting NY or CA, EVER. Transporting a weapon is normally covered by federal laws, not state, but I’m no lawyer, and dont claim to know all gun laws. I know mine, and where I travel to and that’s it. Sadly, SCOTUS has been violating the Constitution for years. Even though there is a “conservative majority” on the court, I’m not holding my breath for them to uphold our God given right’s.

mbagne

Well, here's from the CA regulation for firearm storage:

1. The lock shall be protected by a case hardened (Rc 60+) drill resistant steel plate, or drill resistant material of equivalent strength.
2. Boltwork shall consist of a minimum of three steel locking bolts of at least 1/2-inch thickness that intrude from the door of the safe into the body of the safe or from the body of the safe into the door of the safe, which are operated by a separate handle and secured by the lock.
3. The exterior walls shall be constructed of a minimum 12-gauge thick steel for a single walled safe, or the sum of the steel walls shall add up to at least 0.100 inches for safes with two walls. Doors shall be constructed of a minimum one layer of 7-gauge steel plate reinforced construction or at least two layers of a minimum 12-gauge steel compound construction.
4. Door hinges shall be protected to prevent the removal of the door. Protective features include, but are not limited to: hinges not exposed to the outside, interlocking door designs, dead bars, jeweler's lugs and active or inactive locking bolts.
5. A gun safe that is able to fully contain firearms and provide for their secure storage, and is certified to/listed as meeting Underwriters Laboratories Residential Security Container rating standards by a Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory (NRTL).

I am not sure if the Bronco safe meets all that criteria. Normally I wouldn't be worried about it, but CA is really cracking down on this issue lately due to the higher rates of gun theft and also higher rates on unintended people (i.e. children/teenagers) getting their hands on supposedly "locked" guns. If someone is just placing a firearm in the Bronco safe to transport to a shooting range and back, that's fine, but any length of "storage" there would likely be problematic. You might be a responsible enough gun owner to not actually store your firearm in a car, but needless to say there are many out there who will. Just saying.

Just did a quick search and here you go.

HANDGUNS. Pursuant to California Penal Code section 25610, a United States citizen over 18 years of age who is not prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, may transport by motor vehicle any handgun provided it is unloaded and locked in the vehicle’s trunk or in a locked container.
Transporting Firearms in California | State of California ...
oag.ca.gov/firearms/travel

lonzo71

NP! I know California has some crazy gun laws. Just like Maryland and NY. I’m so glad I’ve moved away from Maryland, and I wont be visiting NY or CA, EVER. Transporting a weapon is normally covered by federal laws, not state, but I’m no lawyer, and dont claim to know all gun laws. I know mine, and where I travel to and that’s it. Sadly, SCOTUS has been violating the Constitution for years. Even though there is a “conservative majority” on the court, I’m not holding my breath for them to uphold our God given right’s.

FYI that is for home storage

lonzo71

Just did a quick search and here you go.

HANDGUNS. Pursuant to California Penal Code section 25610, a United States citizen over 18 years of age who is not prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, may transport by motor vehicle any handgun provided it is unloaded and locked in the vehicle’s trunk or in a locked container.
Transporting Firearms in California | State of California ...
oag.ca.gov/firearms/travel

Yes, that is what I said, the Bronco safe would not be a problem for TRANSPORTING a firearm, say to and from a shooting range, but STORAGE is another issue. It might sound like a nuance or nit-picky, but in CA if you combine firearms and vehicles you do so at your own peril. Especially in ultra-liberal "no gun" areas like LA and SF, they will not hesitate to throw the book at anyone possessing a gun, for any infraction. Seems like they want to harass even the most responsible armed citizens, IMO. I just don't want a Bronco owner to think that safe is approved in CA for firearm storage, I think it will invite problems.

Move to Texas and you can carry it on your person, concealed, without the need for a license

likemike99

FYI that is for home storage

umm, yes, i know :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Largent

Move to Texas and you can carry it on your person, concealed, without the need for a license

Regardless of where you live, if you own a weapon you still need a way to secure it for a short time when you cannot take it with you . Something comes up and you have to go into a school, airport , courthouse, hospital emergency room all have happened to me. While I think every screening location should have lockers you could use while you visited no one else seems to agree.

Thus the need for a short term solution as to where and how to store a gun.

We have too many kids finding guns and hurting people.

TX Bronco Billy

I may have missed the info on my question, but is the safe for the 2 door, 4 door, or both?

Both as it fits in the small compartment in the back of the vehicle.