Beautiful Day on Saints John - Deer Creek Loop Trail Today

Kenneth
Aug 29, 2024

KCsBronco

Aug 29, 2024

Most Colorado Rocky Mtn trails go to historic mine sites, and Saints John trail takes us to couple very high mines - Wild Irishman & General Teller. Funtreks's rates this a difficult trail, but wifey did fine, didn't jump out even once!! Here's FT's page on Saints John.

Saints John is a very remote site with couple cabins & ore mill sites. In winter, these folks access these cabin with snowmobiles. We can see a cabin up ahead there.

Our wet summer has kept these streams flowing pretty good.

It's a steep rocky trail up to the Wild Irishman mine site's remaining cabin. In our younger days, wifey & I had some epic nordic skiing, and later snowshoeing trips up here.

It's a little rough - showing its age a bit. Sure, usually I'll agree altering any historic site is inappropriate. However, this particular cabin has been a very welcome shelter for very long time. I mean, at just under 12k ft, winter temps well under zero & 3 - 4ft snowpack, its potentially lifesaving shelter and great place to warm up with a hot toddy. Perhaps the Wild Irishman's cabin reno will complete next season??

We press-on to the top ridge at 12,400ft.

And meet this little toot. He was very curious, even checked out our Bronco.

General Teller's nearby mine site is one of the highest I've seem. There are tons of heavy head frame steel and facility lumber, but very little actual mine dump material. I could be wrong, but don't think Gen Teller was a very successful miner.

I've learned 1800s Arc welding was a thing, and widely used by 1890 - 1920s.

These sites are fun to explore, but we're burning daylight - Gotta roll!

Did I mention it's a steep & rocky trail - Great fun though!!

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Feels like we're on the top of the world!!

It's a 3 hour, 11.3 mile loop. I want'a go back!

Cheers
UserError, raqball

Rank V

Aug 29, 2024

#1
Most Colorado Rocky Mtn trails go to historic mine sites, and Saints John trail takes us to couple very high mines - Wild Irishman & General Teller. Funtreks's rates this a difficult trail, but wifey did fine, didn't jump out even once!! Here's FT's page on Saints John.

Saints John is a very remote site with couple cabins & ore mill sites. In winter, these folks access these cabin with snowmobiles. We can see a cabin up ahead there.

Our wet summer has kept these streams flowing pretty good.

It's a steep rocky trail up to the Wild Irishman mine site's remaining cabin. In our younger days, wifey & I had some epic nordic skiing, and later snowshoeing trips up here.

It's a little rough - showing is age a bit. Perhaps the Wild Irishman's cabin reno will complete next season??

We press-on to the top ridge at 12,400ft.

And meet this little toot. He was very curious, even checked out our Bronco.

General Teller's nearby mine site is one of the highest I've seem. There are tons of heavy head frame steel and facility lumber, but very little actual mine dump material. I could be wrong, but don't think Gen Teller was a very successful miner.

Don't think the old timers did welds like that either.

These sites are fun to explore, but we're burning daylight - Gotta roll!

Did I mention it's a steep & rocky trail - Great fun though!!

Feels like we're on the top of the world!!

It's a 3 hour, 11.3 mile loop. I want'a go back!

Cheers

Awesome photos of your trip! Thanks for sharing with the forum, Kenneth. Here's to many more adventures in your Bronco.

Love my Bronco!

Aug 29, 2024

#2
Great trip!
UserError, Kenneth

Reality Show Host

Aug 29, 2024

#3
Dude, you could easily be a professional trail guide. I enjoyed your photos and the little factoids pertaining to your trip. It makes me want to visit these places. Bravo!
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UserError, Kenneth

KCsBronco

Aug 29, 2024

#4
Awesome photos of your trip! Thanks for sharing with the forum, Kenneth. Here's to many more adventures in your Bronco.

Thank you! Adventures are our idea as well! We're 'Built for More!! Speaking of more - We're seeing more Broncos on our trails too.
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Cheers
UserError, BuckYeah

KCsBronco

Aug 29, 2024

#5
Great trip!

See your blue Bronco against our blue skies next week! Lots of trail options here.
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Cheers
UserError

KCsBronco

Aug 29, 2024

#6
Dude, you could easily be a professional trail guide. I enjoyed your photos and the little factoids pertaining to your trip. It makes me want to visit these places. Bravo!

Happy you enjoy our report! Frankly, wifey is the true adventurer here. Last 50yrs, I'm just trying to keep up with her.
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Cheers
UserError, Deano Bronc

KCsBronco

Aug 29, 2024

#7
Past 20 years haven't been kind to Wild Irishman's cabin. Here're pics from 2004 winter visit.

Ken XC skiing at Wild Irishman's Mine, CO in Feb-'04.jpg
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UserError, Sven

Rank 0

Aug 30, 2024

#8
One of my favorite areas in CO. Was glad to get back up there last month after a 5 year hiatus. Missed seeing the Man Goats though.
Kenneth

KCsBronco

Aug 31, 2024

#9
One of my favorite areas in CO. Was glad to get back up there last month after a 5 year hiatus. Missed seeing the Man Goats though.

Yeah, we luv this area too. Wonder where those mtn goats hang-out these days. Lots of Big Horn Sheep in Mt Evans area, but we haven't seen Mtn goats this year either.
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Cheers

Rank IV

Aug 31, 2024

#10
Looks like a really fun 3-hour jaunt that had a lot of interesting things to see. Thanks for the photos and the historical nuggets, @Kenneth.

Noob question: did you air down for this drive? (Or should airing down be standard practice when going on a trail?)
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Kenneth

KCsBronco

Aug 31, 2024

#11
Right, off-road tires running 18 - 20psi - Smoother ride, fewer punctures and easier on trail. Gotta limit speed on low air tires on pavement though.

These low air tires bulge at bottom and flex to usual round at top of their rotation. That dynamic's like bending metal bar back 'n forth, which heats up the metal and eventually breaks. Same can happen to tires. They may fail later when fully aired up, but the damage was done running low air on pavement.

General rule for us is 2x psi = mph limit. So, at 20psi no faster that 40mph.

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