Clutch and Transmission Issues already!

Aseeney
Nov 05, 2023

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Nov 05, 2023

*Repost from General Discussion*
I'm new to the forum, and I'm posting this here as I didn't see there was a thread for issues!

Wondering if anyone else with a manual shift is having the same problems I am. I have manual 2023 Badlands soft top with dealer installed lift kit, rock rails and 37" tires, along with brush guard and tow hitch and only about 6500 miles on it.

Bought the truck new in April. I've been trying to get my truck fixed since the end of August. This is a long story but stick with with me.

The Issue
At the end of August, I hadn't driven in several days. One evening I was in a fast food drive-thru line when all of a sudden I smelled something burning, the clutch and brake depress all the way to the floor, the gear shift locked and I couldn't get it out of gear, the displays went haywire, and the car started shuddering, and the auto-shutoff/start mechanism was trying to restart the car, and it didn't work, then the car totally shut-off. I was able to restart the car, and pull out of the drive thru line. The burning smell was very strong and filled the car. I couldn't see any smoke but could smell it, eyes burning, etc. I had the car towed to a local Ford dealer. It took them a couple of days to get it in to look at it.

Initially, the dealer said they found some fluid leak from front pinion seal, fixed the seal, and cleaned off the fluid. They said it was fixed and no longer smoking. They'd had the car for about a week at this point. I picked it up and I could still smell some light traces of the smoke but just thought it was lingering because that's how strong it was initially. After about 15 minutes I could smell it getting stronger. I notified the dealer and they had me bring it back in that week. Thankfully they gave me a loaner. Dealer told me there was a back log on transmission services and it could be a few months depending on what they find once they get it in. This is early September. They then say they think it's the clutch, and because Ford only covers one clutch repair under warranty I had to go in to have the tech ride with me to ensure it's not user error, to see how i drive. I was told no issues with how I drove it. Dealer indicated that they'd been in contact with the local or regional Ford rep regarding the repair issues. Then they indicate they need to take apart transmission and housing to fix issues, etc.
Last week the dealer contacted me and told me my car was repaired and ready, and that they did recalls repairs too. I picked it up and drove home. The car sat in my garage until I drove it 2 days later. After driving for about 15 minutes I started to smell the smoke again and it continued to get stronger while on the highway. When I turned around to head back home I was in heavy traffic and the smoke smell got really strong.

This past Monday I contacted the dealership to let them know the smell was still happening. They tell me it was fine when it was there, that the tech said there was no more smoke, so it must be user error. Since it was fine when it left, if i want them to look at it again, I'll have to get back in the service cue and it could be a few months before they can look at it. And since they believe it's the clutch it won't be covered warranty. Essentially I'm being blamed for burning out 2 clutches?!! I've been driving a manual for 30 years and never burned out a clutch and especially not in 4 months or 2 days!

Anyone experience anything similar with their clutch? Any recommendations on what to do?
Deano Bronc, Laura

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Nov 05, 2023

#1
I think I found this in another group where they were having a similar issue.

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Laura

Rank V

Nov 05, 2023

#2
I'm thinking the 37's and possibly the lift kit even though dealer installed may have voided your warranty. Also thinking the 37's without a gear change may be to much for the factory clutch. The manual Badlands on factory 33's even withe 4.70's is borderline too tall and would be much better with 5.13's. I would say lower gearing or a heavier duty clutch could really help.
Tricky Dick

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Nov 05, 2023

#3
I'm thinking the 37's and possibly the lift kit even though dealer installed may have voided your warranty. Also thinking the 37's without a gear change may be to much for the factory clutch. The manual Badlands on factory 33's even withe 4.70's is borderline too tall and would be much better with 5.13's. I would say lower gearing or a heavier duty clutch could really help.

@lapazleo thanks for the post! If that was the case wouldn't it have been happening the entire time I've had it?I've driven back and forth to Oklahoma a few times(i live in Illinois), drove it in the city, etc, and it just started happening at the end of August. Also, they replaced clutch a week ago and 2 days later same thing was happening.

EDITH!

Nov 05, 2023

#4
Change from 33 to 37 changes rpm by roughly 250 rpm (assuming a 1:1 trans ratio I'm using 1:1 for comparison sake) I know all about rolling radius etc, don't need a lecture on this . I only looked for a gross change in rpm.If it was a 500 rpm change I would look at it closer.
5.19s would put rpm close to where it was with the 4.70s , but I don't feel that going to 37s with a 4.70 would smoke the clutch.
Oil dripping from the pinion seal wouldn't smoke unless it drips on the exhaust or the diff ran dry, But that wouldn't affect the brakes.
MAGA Make Archie Great Again

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Nov 05, 2023

#5
Change from 33 to 37 changes rpm by roughly 250 rpm (assuming a 1:1 trans ratio I'm using 1:1 for comparison sake) I know all about rolling radius etc, don't need a lecture on this . I only looked for a gross change in rpm.If it was a 500 rpm change I would look at it closer.
5.19s would put rpm close to where it was with the 4.70s , but I don't feel that going to 37s with a 4.70 would smoke the clutch.
Oil dripping from the pinion seal wouldn't smoke unless it drips on the exhaust or the diff ran dry, But that wouldn't affect the brakes.

Thanks for the info!

Rank 0

Nov 16, 2023

#6
I have also smelled a hot type of smell after driving on the highway/interstate. I’ve had manual transmission vehicles for 25 years and never had that. I do think I know how to drive it. Mine is stock Big Bend. It’s happened since I bought it. What should I do?

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Nov 16, 2023

#7
I have also smelled a hot type of smell after driving on the highway/interstate. I’ve had manual transmission vehicles for 25 years and never had that. I do think I know how to drive it. Mine is stock Big Bend. It’s happened since I bought it. What should I do?

Have you had it serviced? Reach out to @Ford Motor Company.

Rank V

Nov 18, 2023

#8
I have also smelled a hot type of smell after driving on the highway/interstate. I’ve had manual transmission vehicles for 25 years and never had that. I do think I know how to drive it. Mine is stock Big Bend. It’s happened since I bought it. What should I do?

Are you in 2WD?
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Rank V

Nov 20, 2023

#9
*Repost from General Discussion*
I'm new to the forum, and I'm posting this here as I didn't see there was a thread for issues!

Wondering if anyone else with a manual shift is having the same problems I am. I have manual 2023 Badlands soft top with dealer installed lift kit, rock rails and 37" tires, along with brush guard and tow hitch and only about 6500 miles on it.

Bought the truck new in April. I've been trying to get my truck fixed since the end of August. This is a long story but stick with with me.

The Issue
At the end of August, I hadn't driven in several days. One evening I was in a fast food drive-thru line when all of a sudden I smelled something burning, the clutch and brake depress all the way to the floor, the gear shift locked and I couldn't get it out of gear, the displays went haywire, and the car started shuddering, and the auto-shutoff/start mechanism was trying to restart the car, and it didn't work, then the car totally shut-off. I was able to restart the car, and pull out of the drive thru line. The burning smell was very strong and filled the car. I couldn't see any smoke but could smell it, eyes burning, etc. I had the car towed to a local Ford dealer. It took them a couple of days to get it in to look at it.

Initially, the dealer said they found some fluid leak from front pinion seal, fixed the seal, and cleaned off the fluid. They said it was fixed and no longer smoking. They'd had the car for about a week at this point. I picked it up and I could still smell some light traces of the smoke but just thought it was lingering because that's how strong it was initially. After about 15 minutes I could smell it getting stronger. I notified the dealer and they had me bring it back in that week. Thankfully they gave me a loaner. Dealer told me there was a back log on transmission services and it could be a few months depending on what they find once they get it in. This is early September. They then say they think it's the clutch, and because Ford only covers one clutch repair under warranty I had to go in to have the tech ride with me to ensure it's not user error, to see how i drive. I was told no issues with how I drove it. Dealer indicated that they'd been in contact with the local or regional Ford rep regarding the repair issues. Then they indicate they need to take apart transmission and housing to fix issues, etc.
Last week the dealer contacted me and told me my car was repaired and ready, and that they did recalls repairs too. I picked it up and drove home. The car sat in my garage until I drove it 2 days later. After driving for about 15 minutes I started to smell the smoke again and it continued to get stronger while on the highway. When I turned around to head back home I was in heavy traffic and the smoke smell got really strong.

This past Monday I contacted the dealership to let them know the smell was still happening. They tell me it was fine when it was there, that the tech said there was no more smoke, so it must be user error. Since it was fine when it left, if i want them to look at it again, I'll have to get back in the service cue and it could be a few months before they can look at it. And since they believe it's the clutch it won't be covered warranty. Essentially I'm being blamed for burning out 2 clutches?!! I've been driving a manual for 30 years and never burned out a clutch and especially not in 4 months or 2 days!

Anyone experience anything similar with their clutch? Any recommendations on what to do?

Hi there, I'd be happy to look into your Bronco concerns on my end. Will you send us a message with your VIN and dealership info? I can look into things on my end.

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