Ford dont forget the Bronco Sport.

Yep, can't find a good reason to trade in the wife's Subaru and get a bronco sport.

Sightseer 2.0

Ford please do not forget the Bronco Sport. Nothing is being done By Ford Performance or the aftermarket as was stated you were working with. We want some love by you. We want to be able to do more. How about a wiring harness extension for the ECM? We need more choices for suspension, body protection and self recovery options. These are just a few thoughts. There have been SEMA examples that were either dummy setups or not feesable for production. If the Bronco Sport does not get the love and attention it deserves then people will keep going to Sub***. That is what I see as a close competitor at least when I was shopping. We have a vehicle that is so capable and wanting for more.

Thanks for sharing this and your passion for the Sport. Hopefully we'll get some additional goodies soon

Ford has no great reason to do anything with the sport. It’s not for the “builders” or “tinkerers” or those that like to heavily mod like the Bronco. It’s for the same folks that buy Subaru’s, etc. that just like a relatively capable all-weather vehicle that works but isn’t their focus.

V1Rotate

Ford has no great reason to do anything with the sport. It’s not for the “builders” or “tinkerers” or those that like to heavily mod like the Bronco. It’s for the same folks that buy Subaru’s, etc. that just like a relatively capable all-weather vehicle that works but isn’t their focus.

HAve you seen what's available for the Subarus? Have you seen some of those builds? Come on who is the naive one. I came to Ford due to what I saw as the Subarus shortcomings. If I had more disposable income I suppose I could have paid 5, 10, 15k over msrp and would have a 6G. Every vehicle has an audience. At the time this was available to order and I could afford it. I have a capable vehicle that I like and performs to my abilities and needs. Every vehicle is for at the least the tinkering type. Can this be build for Rock crawling? No. I know it lacks the real 4x4 components. Can it do some decent trails absolutely. As for Fords reason, they talked about working with the aftermarket segment for accessories. Based on my research what I am asking for should not be as difficult as it is. They didn't tought it as just an all weather capable vehicle when talking about the Badlands trim or any trim. Ford didn't think someone with an Outer Banks wouldn't want to take it to the OB? I am just trying to have some fun with something that is different from my muscle car days and in MY budget. I am here to help people see there is more to the Bronco Sport than you think. Do you want to help me and get some more attention to the Bronco Sport? Or just slam? I am old enough to know Ford doesn't care as much as I hope the Aftermarket community will see the money being left on the table.

Sightseer 2.0

HAve you seen what's available for the Subarus? Have you seen some of those builds? Come on who is the naive one. I came to Ford due to what I saw as the Subarus shortcomings. If I had more disposable income I suppose I could have paid 5, 10, 15k over msrp and would have a 6G. Every vehicle has an audience. At the time this was available to order and I could afford it. I have a capable vehicle that I like and performs to my abilities and needs. Every vehicle is for at the least the tinkering type. Can this be build for Rock crawling? No. I know it lacks the real 4x4 components. Can it do some decent trails absolutely. As for Fords reason, they talked about working with the aftermarket segment for accessories. Based on my research what I am asking for should not be as difficult as it is. They didn't tought it as just an all weather capable vehicle when talking about the Badlands trim or any trim. Ford didn't think someone with an Outer Banks wouldn't want to take it to the OB? I am just trying to have some fun with something that is different from my muscle car days and in MY budget. I am here to help people see there is more to the Bronco Sport than you think. Do you want to help me and get some more attention to the Bronco Sport? Or just slam? I am old enough to know Ford doesn't care as much as I hope the Aftermarket community will see the money being left on the table.

Sensitive much? No one is “slamming” the sport, just pointing out the obvious as to why there isn’t currently much of a focus on additional options.. it’s selling fine as is. It’s a totally different vehicle for a totally different audience. FWIW we sold our Subaru to buy a 6th gen Wildtrak at MSRP last year. Enjoying the heck out of it!

V1Rotate

Sensitive much? No one is “slamming” the sport, just pointing out the obvious as to why there isn’t currently much of a focus on additional options.. it’s selling fine as is. It’s a totally different vehicle for a totally different audience. FWIW we sold our Subaru to buy a 6th gen Wildtrak at MSRP last year. Enjoying the heck out of it!

Just trying to get more going for it, us, me. Sensitive? Frustrated a little.

Sightseer 2.0

HAve you seen what's available for the Subarus? Have you seen some of those builds? Come on who is the naive one. I came to Ford due to what I saw as the Subarus shortcomings. If I had more disposable income I suppose I could have paid 5, 10, 15k over msrp and would have a 6G. Every vehicle has an audience. At the time this was available to order and I could afford it. I have a capable vehicle that I like and performs to my abilities and needs. Every vehicle is for at the least the tinkering type. Can this be build for Rock crawling? No. I know it lacks the real 4x4 components. Can it do some decent trails absolutely. As for Fords reason, they talked about working with the aftermarket segment for accessories. Based on my research what I am asking for should not be as difficult as it is. They didn't tought it as just an all weather capable vehicle when talking about the Badlands trim or any trim. Ford didn't think someone with an Outer Banks wouldn't want to take it to the OB? I am just trying to have some fun with something that is different from my muscle car days and in MY budget. I am here to help people see there is more to the Bronco Sport than you think. Do you want to help me and get some more attention to the Bronco Sport? Or just slam? I am old enough to know Ford doesn't care as much as I hope the Aftermarket community will see the money being left on the table.

I came from a Jeep Renegade, which is a pretty good comparison with the Bronco Sport as far as capability goes. But the Jeep Renegade had a TON of customization options, which made me a bit disappointed in the sport. One of the reasons I couldn't wait to upgrade to a big Bronco.

I would edit your post to, @Ford Motor Company, at the Start of your post. That way you know it will be noticed by Ford. Also don’t be afraid to spell out Subaru. You don’t want to leave them guessing!🤣

TK1215

I would edit your post to, @Ford Motor Company, at the Start of your post. That way you know it will be noticed by Ford. Also don’t be afraid to spell out Subaru. You don’t want to leave them guessing!🤣

Thats what I really wanted. Thanks.

https://moparinsiders.com/mopar-showcases-even-more-parts-for-2023-jeep-renegade-trailhawk/
Maybe Obi wan is my only hope.
Look what is possible with support of the manufacturer. Come on Bronco Sport drivers we need to let ford know.

Sightseer 2.0

https://moparinsiders.com/mopar-showcases-even-more-parts-for-2023-jeep-renegade-trailhawk/
Maybe Obi wan is my only hope.
Look what is possible with support of the manufacturer. Come on Bronco Sport drivers we need to let ford know.

I’m Totally with ya on this !
I have both
A 2021 Sport BB
And a 2022 2dr Black Diamond.

Obviously for the $—- I could have bought two of the larger Broncos.

But that’s not what I wanted.
(Or Needed)

@Ford Motor Company needs to step it up !
Consumers aren’t fooled by
paint schemes & plastic.

If @Ford Motor Company needs some assistance in knowing what to do with the SPORT ?

(Or the bigger rigs for that matter)

FORD…
Give me a call 📞

You’ll be applying for patents before the call ends !

Anyone who gets into the Bronco Sport should know it is a casual car. If you're wanting more, you know what to upgrade to.

As for comparison to Subaru, they haven't had a dedicated 4x4 with capability to run even 30s for a while. Recently their outback wilderness comes lifted but only has 29s, so yes the market is different for them since that is the most they can do.

Look at Tacomas, very popular 4x4 but cannot run even 33s without cutting/extra mods.

In the Jeep world, lots of focus go toward Wranglers.

If we're using SEMA as a benchmark, it was obvious at the 2021 show that the full size Bronco was simply made to be modified. That was not the intent with the foal- I mean sport.

nomnom

it is a casual car.

It doesn't have to be, though. The Sport is fantastic off-road, and from what I've seen from people who have found parts to modify it with, looks great customized to the owner's likings and hobbies. I can't wait to see more products for it.

Laura

It doesn't have to be, though. The Sport is fantastic off-road, and from what I've seen from people who have found parts to modify it with, looks great customized to the owner's likings and hobbies. I can't wait to see more products for it.

"looks great" and actual capabilities are two different things. Of course you can drastically modify anything to make it more capable, throw it on a tube frame with a V8 and solid axle 4 wheel steer (how much of the original car is left?). I think saying they are fantastic is a stretch, I would say very good off-road.

For the average person in many cases, the smartest, fastest, easiest, and probably cheapest thing to do is just sell it and buy a full size if you're wanting more out of it. To lift, cut fenders, beef up suspension components to run larger tires, it can be daunting.

If I was driving 2-3 rated trails at most, yeah the sport will do fine.

nomnom

Anyone who gets into the Bronco Sport should know it is a casual car. If you're wanting more, you know what to upgrade to.

As for comparison to Subaru, they haven't had a dedicated 4x4 with capability to run even 30s for a while. Recently their outback wilderness comes lifted but only has 29s, so yes the market is different for them since that is the most they can do.

Look at Tacomas, very popular 4x4 but cannot run even 33s without cutting/extra mods.

In the Jeep world, lots of focus go toward Wranglers.

If we're using SEMA as a benchmark, it was obvious at the 2021 show that the full size Bronco was simply made to be modified. That was not the intent with the foal- I mean sport.

Let's stay positive and on topic. I do not need you to tell me what I know about different class if vehicles. I am talking about direct competition. Not that I should buy this or that. You mention just tire size. Maybe the largest tire that can be fit is not the issue. How about a means to self recovery? Most of the accessories are universal in nature. I am trying tobuse this forum to get some attention from @Ford Motor Company . Ford doesn't think the Bronco Sport is good enough to compete against the competition. Besides a Tacoma is a pick up. Not what I am looking at unless maybe a Jeep Gladiator, which is not what I need or want. Oh and I think it is now a colt, and even they can kick and buck.

Sightseer 2.0

Let's stay positive and on topic. I do not need you to tell me what I know about different class if vehicles. I am talking about direct competition. Not that I should buy this or that. You mention just tire size. Maybe the largest tire that can be fit is not the issue. How about a means to self recovery? Most of the accessories are universal in nature. I am trying tobuse this forum to get some attention from @Ford Motor Company . Ford doesn't think the Bronco Sport is good enough to compete against the competition. Besides a Tacoma is a pick up. Not what I am looking at unless maybe a Jeep Gladiator, which is not what I need or want. Oh and I think it is now a colt, and even they can kick and buck.

I think you’re missing the point of my post as well as nomnom’s… no one (relatively speaking) buys a Subi Wilderness or fill-in-the-blank other small-to-midsized all-weather soft-road SUV (looking directly at you B-Sport) to get into situations where the ability to self recover is going to be paramount and routine. It’s intended audience are the dirt road capable weekend adventurers that also drive it to work 300 days a year in all 4 seasons, etc.
I’m 1000% supportive of being able to offer as many modifications to any and all vehicles as the driver wants to pursue.. we just have to be real about the audience that the sport was designed for and you don’t have to look any further than that in order to see they aren’t trying to compete with anybody other than the crossover AWD market (and doing a perfectly fine job at the moment w/ it). Just the reality of the situation

Sightseer 2.0

Let's stay positive and on topic. I do not need you to tell me what I know about different class if vehicles. I am talking about direct competition. Not that I should buy this or that. You mention just tire size. Maybe the largest tire that can be fit is not the issue. How about a means to self recovery? Most of the accessories are universal in nature. I am trying tobuse this forum to get some attention from @Ford Motor Company . Ford doesn't think the Bronco Sport is good enough to compete against the competition. Besides a Tacoma is a pick up. Not what I am looking at unless maybe a Jeep Gladiator, which is not what I need or want. Oh and I think it is now a colt, and even they can kick and buck.

I'm not one who fosters sensitive environments, besides all we are doing here is having a discussion with disagreements. If anything is said that is taken personally or offensively, it was not meant in that way, we're all mature adults here (hopeful speaking).

Anyway, the examples I gave were general, to show that even other brand flagships are limited in comparison to the Bronco and Wrangler. The sport is not the flagship, it was not built to be THAT capable. Direct competition for the sport is probably things like the Escape it was built on, Cherokee/Renegade/Compass, that lot. Again, not a massive aftermarket, but some things. How many of these capable street SUVs do you see running winches?

You may consider getting into fabrication/up fitting. Some call it custom, others call it ghetto-rigging, depending on the person.

As for tires, it does matter. It is the only thing contacting the ground, in any discipline or environment, tires make the most performance difference. You could have 1000hp, but if you can't put it down effectively, it won't mean much. Same mindset goes for off-road, certain tires aren't available in the small diameters, thus limiting you even more. Softer compounds and tread for inclement weather. An extreme example is try racing an F1 car on slicks in heavy rain, "the fastest cars in the world" are not going anywhere (box box).

I was agreeing on the tires. You were talking tire size and I was thinking terrain specific. Bottom line it comes down to the rubber meeting the road. Everybody keeps wanting to compare it to the 6G and a wrangler. Why? I am comparing it to soft roaders. Subarus and Renegades. The only thing that somewhat holds it back is just a small winch for self recovery. Ive seen them for Subarus and Renegades. Lift kits yes there are a couple of good ones out there. And we know somebody will take just about anything off road. And this can off road for what it is. Even as an overlander a winch is smart. It seems like more people are focused on what this is not instead of what it can do. I have been debating visiting a local fabricator. I have an idea I just do not know if its feasable. They are about an hour away and just have'nt been able to get there. And maybe this will get the attention for more aftermarket options.