Where is best place to Mount HiLift Jack?

tommygraham

I've seen some say under rear seat, bumper, tailgate, hood, and rollbar. What are your thoughts and photos if possible?

I was just watching the latest videos by @mitchcreel and they are developing a carrier for a hilift jack. Not sure if the carrier is separate from the Rotopax carriers.

tommygraham

I've seen some say under rear seat, bumper, tailgate, hood, and rollbar. What are your thoughts and photos if possible?

Saw this today in my web travels, thought it looked good, good location good use of space. Don’t know if it’s good or not.

Link Here

radar3d

Saw this today in my web travels, thought it looked good, good location good use of space. Don’t know if it’s good or not.

Link Here

I really like it but I think you have to have the $1200 spare tire carrier to use it.

tommygraham

I really like it but I think you have to have the $1200 spare tire carrier to use it.

From RTR website: "Only Compatible With RTR Spare Tire Carrier".
So, yea, you need the $1200 spare tire carrier. That is a nice spot for the jack though.

WhiskeyCity

From RTR website: "Only Compatible With RTR Spare Tire Carrier".
So, yea, you need the $1200 spare tire carrier. That is a nice spot for the jack though.

I really like the look but I would love to have a tailgate reinforcement option for less money and weight. Doesn't seem to be very many options for this yet. Most of what I have seen seem to be just a flat piece of metal screwed to hinges and tailgate. I like what Ford is using on Raptor Bronco but my understanding is that it won't work on the other Bronco Models.

tommygraham

I really like the look but I would love to have a tailgate reinforcement option for less money and weight. Doesn't seem to be very many options for this yet. Most of what I have seen seem to be just a flat piece of metal screwed to hinges and tailgate. I like what Ford is using on Raptor Bronco but my understanding is that it won't work on the other Bronco Models.

I have the rough country one installed. Now how much does it help, I don’t know i‘m no engineer.

tommygraham

I really like the look but I would love to have a tailgate reinforcement option for less money and weight. Doesn't seem to be very many options for this yet. Most of what I have seen seem to be just a flat piece of metal screwed to hinges and tailgate. I like what Ford is using on Raptor Bronco but my understanding is that it won't work on the other Bronco Models.

The women's build at SEMA used the Raptor spare mount, maybe @Ladyinbluebronco can comment on its compatibility or lack thereof

This looks promising with universal mount plate.
https://www.bayareametalfab.com/2021-22-FORD-Bronco-Rear-tail-gate-reinforcement-_p_180.html

tommygraham

I've seen some say under rear seat, bumper, tailgate, hood, and rollbar. What are your thoughts and photos if possible?

I'm a bottle jack guy but if I was to haul one around I'd look at something like this. Hilift jack hitch mount – GoWesty

Best place to mount a hi-lift is in the garage, back corner, behind a second set of (winter) tires which are mounted on a second set of wheels. I would permanently affix it in the garage so no one thinks to actually use it, maybe with the base set in concrete. Another place to mount a hi-lift is at the end of a chain, used as a boat anchor; although, I'm not sure how practical that one is.

AcesandEights

Best place to mount a hi-lift is in the garage, back corner, behind a second set of (winter) tires which are mounted on a second set of wheels. I would permanently affix it in the garage so no one thinks to actually use it, maybe with the base set in concrete. Another place to mount a hi-lift is at the end of a chain, used as a boat anchor; although, I'm not sure how practical that one is.

Might be great advice. What jack do you suggest. I am open to suggestions.

Is there a reason the stock jack won't work? If not, I'd get a nice, not expensive, bottle jack. They probably work better in 95% of the scenarios, and the other 5% of the time the hi-lift isn't going to work any better.

ETA: I'll elaborate, and I've probably done it better before on this forum elsewhere. The hi-lift doesn't lift straight up and down, or the vehicle doesn't stay up and down. The jack will move in an arc as the vehicle does, as the vehicle is lifted. It'll do the same on the way down, but not necessarily in the same arc. You may lift ok, but as you lower the jack may make contact with the vehicle, or vice-versa. If you're off-camber, next to rocks, ruts, trees, etc. you're going to push your vehicle into something.

The hi-lift requires a hard/fixed place to jack from, which most vehicles won't have (think steel bumper, not plastic), or the place that is convenient or necessary to lift from will not have that hard place from which to lift, either a plastic bumper, a rocker that is set slightly back from the door edge (the jack will hit the door as you lift or lower).

The 48" or 60" or whatever total length of the jack is, is at the extreme, but it doesn't necessarily offer 48" or 60" total lift because if the bumper height is 24" you have 24" of lift (48"), at the (unsafe) max. Also, often overlooked, the hi-lift is lifting above the axle, and therefor requires you to unload the suspension. You waste whatever the articulation is in effort lifting the tire from above the axle. Lift from the axle and every inch of lift is lifting the wheel/tire. (sprung/unsprung lifting)

It's safer, requires less lift, is almost always easier to use, a bottle jack under the axle tube.

edited again to fix some grammar and typos...whew, my fingers can't keep up with my mind or...whatever.

This works for my set up.

AcesandEights

Is there a reason the stock jack won't work? If not, I'd get a nice, not expensive, bottle jack. They probably work better in 95% of the scenarios, and the other 5% of the time the hi-lift isn't going to work any better.

ETA: I'll elaborate, and I've probably done it better before on this forum elsewhere. The hi-lift doesn't lift straight up and down, or the vehicle doesn't stay up and down. The jack will move in an arc as the vehicle does, as the vehicle is lifted. It'll do the same on the way down, but not necessarily in the same arc. You may lift ok, but was you lower the jack may make contact with the vehicle, or vice-versa. If you're off-camber, next to rocks, ruts, trees, etc. you're going to push your vehicle into something.

The hi-lift requires a hard/fixed place to jack from, which most vehicles won't have (think steel bumper, not plastic), of the place that is convenient or necessary to lift from will not have that hard place from which to lift, either a plastic bumper, a rocker that is set slightly back from the door edge (the jack will hit the jack as you lift or lower).

The 48" or 60" or whatever total length of the jack is the extreme, but it doesn't necessarily offer 48" or 60" of lift because if the bumper height is 24" you have 24" of lift (48"), at the (unsafe) max. Also, often overlooked, the hi-lift is lifting above the axle, and therefor requires you to unload the suspension. You waste whatever the articulation is in effort lifting the tire from above the axle. Lift from the axle and every inch of lift is lifting the wheel/tire. (sprung/unsprung lifting)

It's safer, requires less lift, is almost always easier to use, a bottle jack under the axle tube.

That's why I love this forum. I am not an experienced off roader. This makes perfect sense. Thanks so much for your input.

AcesandEights
Is there a reason the stock jack won't work? If not, I'd get a nice, not expensive, bottle jack. They probably work better in 95% of the scenarios, and the other 5% of the time the hi-lift isn't going to work any better.

ETA: I'll elaborate, and I've probably done it better before on this forum elsewhere. The hi-lift doesn't lift straight up and down, or the vehicle doesn't stay up and down. The jack will move in an arc as the vehicle does, as the vehicle is lifted. It'll do the same on the way down, but not necessarily in the same arc. You may lift ok, but as you lower the jack may make contact with the vehicle, or vice-versa. If you're off-camber, next to rocks, ruts, trees, etc. you're going to push your vehicle into something.

The hi-lift requires a hard/fixed place to jack from, which most vehicles won't have (think steel bumper, not plastic), or the place that is convenient or necessary to lift from will not have that hard place from which to lift, either a plastic bumper, a rocker that is set slightly back from the door edge (the jack will hit the door as you lift or lower).

The 48" or 60" or whatever total length of the jack is, is at the extreme, but it doesn't necessarily offer 48" or 60" total lift because if the bumper height is 24" you have 24" of lift (48"), at the (unsafe) max. Also, often overlooked, the hi-lift is lifting above the axle, and therefor requires you to unload the suspension. You waste whatever the articulation is in effort lifting the tire from above the axle. Lift from the axle and every inch of lift is lifting the wheel/tire. (sprung/unsprung lifting)

It's safer, requires less lift, is almost always easier to use, a bottle jack under the axle tube.

edited again to fix some grammar and typos...whew, my fingers can't keep up with my mind or...whatever.

All well and good...except when in a hole and a bottle jack will not fit under the axle....or on a rock and a bottle jack will not even reach the axle...and of course ya need to crawl under the “precarious“ vehicle to use a bottle jack...plus there is no “tube” axle on the front of a Bronco. Sure “high lifts’” need to be used and positioned properly (like any jack) but they are extremely useful in awkward situations.

I really appreciate all the feedback. It seems that there are pros and cons to to the different jacks.

tommygraham

I really like the look but I would love to have a tailgate reinforcement option for less money and weight. Doesn't seem to be very many options for this yet. Most of what I have seen seem to be just a flat piece of metal screwed to hinges and tailgate. I like what Ford is using on Raptor Bronco but my understanding is that it won't work on the other Bronco Models.

Ford is coming out with one for the regular Bronco that looks very similar to the one on the Raptor. I saw it on a Bronco at an event in August. No idea when it will be out though. I'll see if I can find some pictures.

@Oldhippie my experience is the hi-lift is especially difficult, and even more dangerous, to use in those situations. When the vehicle is in a hole, or on a rock, off-camber, side hilling, in rough terrain, mud, sand, awkward, and all the rest, the hi-lift becomes even more awkward. My experience only, but based.on that, I stand by my 95% of the time the bottle jack is better and the other 5% ofnthe time, the hi-lift isn't, haha.,

tommygraham

I've seen some say under rear seat, bumper, tailgate, hood, and rollbar. What are your thoughts and photos if possible?

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