Time for new tires (my experience)

RNC
Aug 09, 2024

Rank V

Aug 09, 2024

2022 2 door Basesquatch. Hard to believe that after only 2 years, I needed a new set of tires. In fairness, with 55,000 miles behind me, there is still a bit of life left in them. I wanted to use one of the original tires as the spare, so the time is now.
I never debated my 2nd set of tires would be OEM. I like the Goodyear Territory (Wrangler) MT. They have served me well. Also, my plan for the second set was to rotate in the new condition spare and purchase 3 new tires to match.
If you have a similar plan, this is where you might hit some obstacles. First, I have a 35% off coupon for Goodyear friends and family. Great, I think. I go to the local Goodyear store to order the tires. It turns out that Goodyear stores, and Goodyear.com can only get the Wrangler marked Territory MT. They do not have the non Wrangler marked in their system. Well that foils my plan, or so I thought.
I check tirerack.com, and they have the non - Wrangler marked Territory MT in the correct LT315 70R17 load range C size, and tread pattern. $289.00 each, "Free" shipping to your installer, and 2 year road hazard protection.
Confusion sets in when on the same page, they show an otherwise exact tire (all Specs appear to be the same), with a price of $379.00 each. After searching and reading everything very carefully, several times, I can not find an explanation for the price difference.
I get on the phone with their tire expert. My assumption is that the Ford OEM tire is the least expensive of the 2. The tire Rep confirms that these tires are in fact the same tires that come from the Ford assembly plant.
With confident relief, I order the tires . I arrange to have them installed by a local Tire Rack contractor. I get the notice that the tires have been delivered. I make an appointment for installation. I get some attention from the employees as I pull in the lot. I feel like a curiosity. The Bronco is still a relatively uncommon vehicle on the road. Few have reached the end life of their 1st set of tires. Fewer still are Sasquatch equipped Broncos.
These guys haven't put hands on one yet. I ask them if they can mount 35 inch tires. The collective head scratching begins. A Tech speaks up and says they are too big for their balancer. They start suggesting other shops and solutions for getting the tires to them. I ask them to take my spare and check fit it to their machines. It fits. They give it a go, and the installation process went flawlessly. No scratches or striped bolts on the trim rings. All tires perfectly balanced and all wheels torqued to Spec.
I'm off to collect some pea gravel.

Eye candy;
"There's nothing better for the inside of a man than the outside of a Bronco" - John Bronco
MWNew, BuckYeah

Go Team West Yellowstone and Albuquerque

Aug 10, 2024

#1
55,000 miles is impressive! Well Done!
I don’t have any issues with my OEM tires, either!
Riding OB1, 23 4- door Outer Banks, SAS, MOD, MIC, Lux, Ordered 10/20/22, delivered 1/13/23
BostonBadlands, Jakob1972

Wherever you go, there you are!

Aug 10, 2024

#2
55,000 miles is impressive! Well Done!
I don’t have any issues with my OEM tires, either!

It's the person that's behind those rock slingers that will have the problem... 😜
onX Trail Guide & Tread Lightly Member
2023 Badlands 2 door in Hot Pepper Red 🌶️ 🌶️
JoergH, EvlNvrDys

Go Team West Yellowstone and Albuquerque

Aug 10, 2024

#3
It's the person that's behind those rock slingers that will have the problem... 😜

True that, though on the trails we generally kept sufficient distance between rigs to prevent mishaps…. IF I were going to replace my tires, I’d likely look at KO3’s (Or maybe KO4’s by then…)
Riding OB1, 23 4- door Outer Banks, SAS, MOD, MIC, Lux, Ordered 10/20/22, delivered 1/13/23
Jakob1972, Deano Bronc

Gladesmen

Aug 10, 2024

#4
These tires kinda get a bad rap. But they have treated me right for the 36,000 miles. And thousands of miles on trails and dirt. I would get them again. Plus they have a distinct tread pattern so when on a trail I know there was another bronco out there.
I call them Sasquatch foot prints.
With that said I will probably replace them with Falken wild peaks just to give it a different look.
Bronco Nation 1100. Everglades, Desert Sand
Res: 7/30/20 ordered 1/22/21 reorder 10/15/21 changed to Everglades 3/9/22 schedule 8/29/22 bumped to 9/5; 9/7/22 blend, 9/9 Mods, 9/26/22 completed, 10/7 shipped, 11/3/22 delivery
OrangecrushBronco, Bluestreak57

Rank IV

Aug 11, 2024

#5
Years ago I worked at a tire store. I found that sometimes the OE tire will have different compounding or other structural differences.

As an example. I did something similar when it came time to replace the rear tires on my 2017 F350 dually.
I incorporated the new spare and 3 new tires on the rear. Same brand and model.
Turns out, the OE tire didn't have the same life expectancy as the other 3. Generally rear dually tires wear evenly.
Bluestreak57

Yosemite here I come!

Aug 11, 2024

#6
2022 2 door Basesquatch. Hard to believe that after only 2 years, I needed a new set of tires. In fairness, with 55,000 miles behind me, there is still a bit of life left in them. I wanted to use one of the original tires as the spare, so the time is now.
I never debated my 2nd set of tires would be OEM. I like the Goodyear Territory (Wrangler) MT. They have served me well. Also, my plan for the second set was to rotate in the new condition spare and purchase 3 new tires to match.
If you have a similar plan, this is where you might hit some obstacles. First, I have a 35% off coupon for Goodyear friends and family. Great, I think. I go to the local Goodyear store to order the tires. It turns out that Goodyear stores, and Goodyear.com can only get the Wrangler marked Territory MT. They do not have the non Wrangler marked in their system. Well that foils my plan, or so I thought.
I check tirerack.com, and they have the non - Wrangler marked Territory MT in the correct LT315 70R17 load range C size, and tread pattern. $289.00 each, "Free" shipping to your installer, and 2 year road hazard protection.
Confusion sets in when on the same page, they show an otherwise exact tire (all Specs appear to be the same), with a price of $379.00 each. After searching and reading everything very carefully, several times, I can not find an explanation for the price difference.
I get on the phone with their tire expert. My assumption is that the Ford OEM tire is the least expensive of the 2. The tire Rep confirms that these tires are in fact the same tires that come from the Ford assembly plant.
With confident relief, I order the tires . I arrange to have them installed by a local Tire Rack contractor. I get the notice that the tires have been delivered. I make an appointment for installation. I get some attention from the employees as I pull in the lot. I feel like a curiosity. The Bronco is still a relatively uncommon vehicle on the road. Few have reached the end life of their 1st set of tires. Fewer still are Sasquatch equipped Broncos.
These guys haven't put hands on one yet. I ask them if they can mount 35 inch tires. The collective head scratching begins. A Tech speaks up and says they are too big for their balancer. They start suggesting other shops and solutions for getting the tires to them. I ask them to take my spare and check fit it to their machines. It fits. They give it a go, and the installation process went flawlessly. No scratches or striped bolts on the trim rings. All tires perfectly balanced and all wheels torqued to Spec.
I'm off to collect some pea gravel.

Eye candy;

Tire Rack is great. They always have tons of info and the shipping is super fast. And you can find done pretty good deals.
Black Diamond/4-door/mid pkg/2.7/MIC/rack/towing/Eruption Green/res 7.13.20/ord 2.8.21, then 10.15.21/built 1.21.22/delivered 4.15.22
Gunstock Off-Roadeo 10/29/22/Steel and Stirrups Traveling Lamp holder 9.23
Gaia GPS

Rank V

Aug 11, 2024

#7
Years ago I worked at a tire store. I found that sometimes the OE tire will have different compounding or other structural differences.

This was my concern. I believe I did my due diligence in trying to determine that the tires will all match. Time will tell.
"There's nothing better for the inside of a man than the outside of a Bronco" - John Bronco

Wherever you go, there you are!

Aug 11, 2024

#8
These tires kinda get a bad rap. But they have treated me right for the 36,000 miles. And thousands of miles on trails and dirt. I would get them again. Plus they have a distinct tread pattern so when on a trail I know there was another bronco out there.
I call them Sasquatch foot prints.
With that said I will probably replace them with Falken wild peaks just to give it a different look.

I don't think the 'bad rap' they have is because of tire wear or because they are not good tires. The bad rap, IMO, is well earned as they are definitely rock slingers. That's not a problem for the person driving on them but it is bad news for whomever is behind them..

They are good tires that sling rocks and break the windshields of others.

For that reason I personally would never consider them, even if they were on massive sale.
onX Trail Guide & Tread Lightly Member
2023 Badlands 2 door in Hot Pepper Red 🌶️ 🌶️
UserError, Bluestreak57

Rank IV

Aug 11, 2024

#9
This was my concern. I believe I did my due diligence in trying to determine that the tires will all match. Time will tell.

I think you nailed it
UserError

Gladesmen

Aug 12, 2024

#10
I don't think the 'bad rap' they have is because of tire wear or because they are not good tires. The bad rap, IMO, is well earned as they are definitely rock slingers. That's not a problem for the person driving on them but it is bad news for whomever is behind them..

They are good tires that sling rocks and break the windshields of others.

For that reason I personally would never consider them, even if they were on massive sale.

Not talking about the fact that they do sling rocks. All-terrain and max traction tires tend to throw rocks, mud tires usually don’t throw rocks because the larger space between the lugs.
The bad rap was for the tires having a weak side wall. But it is not a six ply tire and they are super light so I can live with that. If they were load range D It might be a problem. But I am not putting these on my F250.
Bronco Nation 1100. Everglades, Desert Sand
Res: 7/30/20 ordered 1/22/21 reorder 10/15/21 changed to Everglades 3/9/22 schedule 8/29/22 bumped to 9/5; 9/7/22 blend, 9/9 Mods, 9/26/22 completed, 10/7 shipped, 11/3/22 delivery
UserError, JoergH

Wherever you go, there you are!

Aug 12, 2024

#11
Not talking about the fact that they do sling rocks. All-terrain and max traction tires tend to throw rocks, mud tires usually don’t throw rocks because the larger space between the lugs.
The bad rap was for the tires having a weak side wall. But it is not a six ply tire and they are super light so I can live with that. If they were load range D It might be a problem. But I am not putting these on my F250.

I have Toyo AT's and they do not throw rocks..

I've not really heard many complaints about the sidewalls. All the complaints I've read about are from people driving behind that took a rock to the windshield.. 😮
onX Trail Guide & Tread Lightly Member
2023 Badlands 2 door in Hot Pepper Red 🌶️ 🌶️
UserError, Jakob1972

Gladesmen

Aug 12, 2024

#12
I have Toyo AT's and they do not throw rocks..

I've not really heard many complaints about the sidewalls. All the complaints I've read about are from people driving behind that took a rock to the windshield.. 😮

Agreed Not all ATs will throw rocks but there are a few that will. I remember some Geolanders I had on my 2000 F250 that were on par with the GYs and a set of Bridgestone's that came on our 2009 Suburban that were bad and those were all seasons not ATs. I have lived on a dirt/gravel road for 27 years and have had many types of tires I was surprised how much all season truck tires can throw rocks, car tires you grab a rock from time to time. Also could be the size of our aggregate on our road that is perfect for these tires to grab onto and chuck um.
Bronco Nation 1100. Everglades, Desert Sand
Res: 7/30/20 ordered 1/22/21 reorder 10/15/21 changed to Everglades 3/9/22 schedule 8/29/22 bumped to 9/5; 9/7/22 blend, 9/9 Mods, 9/26/22 completed, 10/7 shipped, 11/3/22 delivery
UserError

Bucephalus

Aug 13, 2024

#13
2022 2 door Basesquatch. Hard to believe that after only 2 years, I needed a new set of tires. In fairness, with 55,000 miles behind me, there is still a bit of life left in them. I wanted to use one of the original tires as the spare, so the time is now.
I never debated my 2nd set of tires would be OEM. I like the Goodyear Territory (Wrangler) MT. They have served me well. Also, my plan for the second set was to rotate in the new condition spare and purchase 3 new tires to match.
If you have a similar plan, this is where you might hit some obstacles. First, I have a 35% off coupon for Goodyear friends and family. Great, I think. I go to the local Goodyear store to order the tires. It turns out that Goodyear stores, and Goodyear.com can only get the Wrangler marked Territory MT. They do not have the non Wrangler marked in their system. Well that foils my plan, or so I thought.
I check tirerack.com, and they have the non - Wrangler marked Territory MT in the correct LT315 70R17 load range C size, and tread pattern. $289.00 each, "Free" shipping to your installer, and 2 year road hazard protection.
Confusion sets in when on the same page, they show an otherwise exact tire (all Specs appear to be the same), with a price of $379.00 each. After searching and reading everything very carefully, several times, I can not find an explanation for the price difference.
I get on the phone with their tire expert. My assumption is that the Ford OEM tire is the least expensive of the 2. The tire Rep confirms that these tires are in fact the same tires that come from the Ford assembly plant.
With confident relief, I order the tires . I arrange to have them installed by a local Tire Rack contractor. I get the notice that the tires have been delivered. I make an appointment for installation. I get some attention from the employees as I pull in the lot. I feel like a curiosity. The Bronco is still a relatively uncommon vehicle on the road. Few have reached the end life of their 1st set of tires. Fewer still are Sasquatch equipped Broncos.
These guys haven't put hands on one yet. I ask them if they can mount 35 inch tires. The collective head scratching begins. A Tech speaks up and says they are too big for their balancer. They start suggesting other shops and solutions for getting the tires to them. I ask them to take my spare and check fit it to their machines. It fits. They give it a go, and the installation process went flawlessly. No scratches or striped bolts on the trim rings. All tires perfectly balanced and all wheels torqued to Spec.
I'm off to collect some pea gravel.

Eye candy;

Forgive my ignorance, as I've never had wheels with beadlock capability before.
Are you saying that to change the tires on the stock Sasquatch wheels, you have to take the Non Functional beadlock trim ring off? I would've thought that if you're not using the beadlock, the ring would stay on & it would be the same as any other tire change...

Go Team West Yellowstone and Albuquerque

Aug 13, 2024

#14
Forgive my ignorance, as I've never had wheels with beadlock capability before.
Are you saying that to change the tires on the stock Sasquatch wheels, you have to take the Non Functional beadlock trim ring off? I would've thought that if you're not using the beadlock, the ring would stay on & it would be the same as any other tire change...
Following…. I have yet to remove a tire from my headlock capable wheels
Riding OB1, 23 4- door Outer Banks, SAS, MOD, MIC, Lux, Ordered 10/20/22, delivered 1/13/23

Game on mofos! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

Aug 13, 2024

#15
Following…. I have yet to remove a tire from my headlock capable wheels

When I had a set of Duratraks installed on Wildtrak wheels the rings were not removed. Installed just like a non bead-lock capable wheel. My $ .02
21 Badlands, 2 dr, four banger, slushbox, SAS. PERFECT!
BuckYeah, UserError

Go Team West Yellowstone and Albuquerque

Aug 13, 2024

#16
When I had a set of Duratraks installed on Wildtrak wheels the rings were not removed. Installed just like a non bead-lock capable wheel. My $ .02

Don’t ya hate it when giving your opinion costs half a day’s wages….
Riding OB1, 23 4- door Outer Banks, SAS, MOD, MIC, Lux, Ordered 10/20/22, delivered 1/13/23
UserError, Jakob1972

Game on mofos! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

Aug 13, 2024

#17
Don’t ya hate it when giving your opinion costs half a day’s wages….

At least it's between meetings wages..LMAO
21 Badlands, 2 dr, four banger, slushbox, SAS. PERFECT!
UserError, Jakob1972

🇨🇦 Never 51 🇨🇦

Aug 14, 2024

#18
These tires kinda get a bad rap. But they have treated me right for the 36,000 miles. And thousands of miles on trails and dirt. I would get them again. Plus they have a distinct tread pattern so when on a trail I know there was another bronco out there.
I call them Sasquatch foot prints.
With that said I will probably replace them with Falken wild peaks just to give it a different look.
I have the Falken WildPeaks and they have been flawless even when winter turned the roads into an ice rink.
Supreme Leader of the Wandering but NOT Lost
2022 OBX Cyber Orange Metallic with random acutriments.
UserError, Jakob1972

Wherever you go, there you are!

Aug 14, 2024

#19
If you want the Goodyear's then check out Amazon. They have the Bronco version of the Territory MT for $207 each.

Amazon Territory MT
onX Trail Guide & Tread Lightly Member
2023 Badlands 2 door in Hot Pepper Red 🌶️ 🌶️
BuckYeah, UserError

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