Still confused about size of wire for winch control box relocation…..

yoderman
Feb 11, 2022

Rank III

Feb 11, 2022

Read and researched lots of winch stuff online that seems to suggest 2 or 3 awg is what to use (same as OEM warn or smittybilt winches). A Winch can draw up to and over 450amps for a 9k or heavier pull. I need 3 runs of 5’ wire for the relocation of a control box under hood (yellow/blue/green jacketed wires). I Was going to use 1/0 stranded copper service wire from Home Depot at $2.50/ft. Because it was faster to get and less expensive by a lot. It is rated for 150amps. I am concerned after reading online chats that the 1/0 won’t be able to handle the 450amps when needed. I guess I am Still not understanding how in the world a 2 or 3awg fine stranded copper wire OEM used for warn or smittybilt winches can be more appropriate for handling all that amperage need than a very large 1/0 stranded copper service wire. Just doesn’t seem to make sense giving how much more copper there is in a large stranded 1/0 wire and heavier insulated jacket versus fine threaded 2awg wire. Is this a case of a winch only needing to draw 450+ amps in a 1 minute or less heavy weight pull scenario, versus 1/0 continuously capable of handling 150amps? I would assume that a 1/0 wire would easily be capable of handling 450amps for a minute without overheating. If I am wrong, my bronco goes up in flames. Lol…a little drama, but it is feasible. Clearly I would spend the $150 for a winch relocation kit if needed. But is it needed? Will appreciate y’all’s insight to help me wrap my small brain around this. Thanks.
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Rank VI

Feb 11, 2022

#1
The 150A rating for 1/0 is the amount of current it can carry at ambient (30C) continuously without exceeding the temperature rating of the insulation (most often 75C).

All things being equal (ambient temperature, temperature rating of insulation, length of conductor), a 1/0 can carry more current than #2awg.

i would think that a nice, flexible 1/0 with good 75 or 90C insulation would be perfect.

oh, and make sure your terminations are solid, any added resistance here is going to increase heating and give you problems.
2021 badlands, 2.3, MT, rapid red, soft top

Rank III

Feb 12, 2022

#2
Thanks Shoresy. Makes sense. I am going to install the 1/0 this weekend and will ensure the connectors are rock solid.

Rank VI

Feb 12, 2022

#3
Thanks Shoresy. Makes sense. I am going to install the 1/0 this weekend and will ensure the connectors are rock solid.
You can get 25’ of #1 battery cable for $25 it’s more flexible than stranded service cable. If you can solder. I would suggest soldering the terminals. Good luck. Post pics.
Shoresy

Rank III

Feb 12, 2022

#4
There are also ready made options.

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Rank III

Feb 13, 2022

#5
changed my mind on the 1/0 wire. So heavy and inflexible and 6 terminal ends cost $20 and then I had to buy solder beads for $20 and solder the parts. Gave up, returned the wire and just bought the warn long wire relocation kit for $110! Now I know it will work with flexible wire. Worth the piece of mind. Thanks for the suggestions folks.
Deano Bronc

Rank II

Feb 13, 2022

#6
Good call. Better safe than sorry. Especially when you need your winch and know it will work.

Rank VI

Feb 13, 2022

#7
changed my mind on the 1/0 wire. So heavy and inflexible and 6 terminal ends cost $20 and then I had to buy solder beads for $20 and solder the parts. Gave up, returned the wire and just bought the warn long wire relocation kit for $110! Now I know it will work with flexible wire. Worth the piece of mind. Thanks for the suggestions folks.
Sometimes, the engineered solution is the good solution!
2021 badlands, 2.3, MT, rapid red, soft top
Deano Bronc

Gladesmen

Feb 13, 2022

#8
Yeah that 1/0 is not very bendy. You would have been better off getting DLO cable that is much more flexible. The more strands the bendier it will be.
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