Roof Rack "fix"... MIC 2.0 or MOD MY23

da_jokker
Aug 16, 2021

Rank II

Aug 16, 2021

So a while back we were told that the inability to add roof rails to many four-door/Sasquatched trims what is due to the B&P Not being able to calculate gross vehicle weight correctly.

Later we were then told that if you wanted roof rails, wait until MY 2022 (but no explanation as to why)

As of late, we're now told that the MOD top isn't coming until 2023 and that a V2 of the MIC was coming in Oct.

So my question: Is the fix for the lack of Roof Rails tied to the MOD (2023), a newly designed MIC (now coming in Oct), or a new B&P (by Sept?!?)
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Team F Cancer!!

Aug 16, 2021

#1
It's always been a GVWR issue on the 4dr SAS. As Ford said in the last email and their YT interview the rack will be redesigned for the 22MY SAS
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7/16/20 Res -- 1/22/21, 10/8/21 Order -- 3/24/22 VIN -- 5/9/22, 5/23/22, 5/16/22, 6/6/22, 6/17/22 Build 7/15/22 Delivered

Bronco guy doing Bronco-ey things with his Bronco

Aug 16, 2021

#2
I had that same question. If they are incorporating a redesign now, will they incorporate the 22MY updates early? I would guess they would, but I would like that answer as well. Thanks for asking it OP!
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jimFish

Rank V

Aug 17, 2021

#3
It's always been a GVWR issue on the 4dr SAS. As Ford said in the last email and their YT interview the rack will be redesigned for the 22MY SAS
Is there any word out (or solid theories) on what specific changes to the roof rack will now make it work with MY22 SAS?
FE: 4 Dr, A51, NP
BRaptor: HPR; Original GT Res - 7/14/20
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Life is a Highway

Aug 17, 2021

#4
The roof rack issue is a combination of factors. The biggest one is the limited weight capacity that the roofs can hold. These roofs are not designed to be load bearing.
There is the overall issue of how much weight combined the vehicle can handle. This includes roof load, exterior load, interior load, passenger load and any trailer you may be towing. I am curious as to the redesign that is supposed to be offered For the rack. They can utilize the pre-existing mounting points above the front windshield , and I foresee a rear mounting point on the body And or frame. If they are able to mount either on the body at the rear, between the clamshell and the rear quarters, that would work. Or run the rear supports down to the frame some how. Serious racks
Deano Bronc

Rank V

Aug 17, 2021

#5
The roof rack issue is a combination of factors. The biggest one is the limited weight capacity that the roofs can hold. These roofs are not designed to be load bearing.
There is the overall issue of how much weight combined the vehicle can handle. This includes roof load, exterior load, interior load, passenger load and any trailer you may be towing. I am curious as to the redesign that is supposed to be offered For the rack. They can utilize the pre-existing mounting points above the front windshield , and I foresee a rear mounting point on the body And or frame. If they are able to mount either on the body at the rear, between the clamshell and the rear quarters, that would work. Or run the rear supports down to the frame some how. Serious racks
Your thoughts make complete sense to me in terms of making the roof rack itself more capable. Changing up the rear mount points and possibly even using different material and/or cross bar layout could certainly result in a better roof rack, but I don't understand how that solves the overall GVWR issue which I thought was the root of the problem. Wouldn't more weight (as a result of a more capable roof rack) just make that problem worse? I assume the Sasquatch components and the 4dr in general aren't getting any lighter in MY22, or are they? :unsure:
FE: 4 Dr, A51, NP
BRaptor: HPR; Original GT Res - 7/14/20
Deano Bronc
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Life is a Highway

Aug 17, 2021

#6
Your thoughts make complete sense to me in terms of making the roof rack itself more capable. Changing up the rear mount points and possibly even using different material and/or cross bar layout could certainly result in a better roof rack, but I don't understand how that solves the overall GVWR issue which I thought was the root of the problem. Wouldn't more weight (as a result of a more capable roof rack) just make that problem worse? I assume the Sasquatch components and the 4dr in general aren't getting any lighter in MY22, or are they? :unsure:
Just means you gotta cut weight somewhere else. That’s why I am looking into a small off road road trailer. On shorter trips configure storage inside and out but just limit. Longer excursions, utilize the trailer.

Team F Cancer!!

Aug 17, 2021

#7
Is there any word out (or solid theories) on what specific changes to the roof rack will now make it work with MY22 SAS?
@TK1215 summed it up well. They won't release anything until Maybe Sept (kinda doubtful with the roof issues at hand now). But, like he said the MIC/MOD was never designed to be weight bearing by any means. So I am still looking at the 4WP rack that uses the rear body
WT HOSS 4dr 2.7 MIC Lux Tow
7/16/20 Res -- 1/22/21, 10/8/21 Order -- 3/24/22 VIN -- 5/9/22, 5/23/22, 5/16/22, 6/6/22, 6/17/22 Build 7/15/22 Delivered
SlashRacer
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Defeated by Mickey’s Hot Tub

Aug 17, 2021

#8
@TK1215 summed it up well. They won't release anything until Maybe Sept (kinda doubtful with the roof issues at hand now). But, like he said the MIC/MOD was never designed to be weight bearing by any means. So I am still looking at the 4WP rack that uses the rear body
I'm wondering if the rack they have on their soft top bronco will work on the hard top also? Looks like it would raise the back of the roof on a hard top up a 1/4".
2021 Badlands, 4 door, 2.7L, Auto, LUX, SAS, Tow Package, MIC, Velocity Blue.
Deano Bronc

Rank II

Aug 17, 2021

#9
Thanks for the feedback..just seems like some things are not adding up like how a rack mounts effects GVWR, Center of Gravity I can see, but not Gross.

And so the thinking is not that the Top is going to change, but the actual rack itself will change. So folks with the v1 MIC will be able to purchase the Rack 2.0 and it will fit?

Guess time will tell, like most Bronco items

Rank V

Aug 17, 2021

#10
No doubt there are and will be better rack solutions in the AM over time. However, the basic question remains unanswered...how is Ford able to offer a redesigned(?) roof rack with the 4dr MY22 Sasquatch if it does not also address the underlying GVWR issue? This issue is independent of any different AM racks or other accessories someone may choose to add to their Bronco or how one chooses to pack for travelling. Either weight was spared somewhere else in the projected MY22 factory build to now account for the roof rack (simply making the rack stronger or change the rear attachment points, certainly all good things, doesn't solve the GVWR issue) OR maybe the GVWR issue did not end up being as significant as the engineers thought for MY21 models and they were just being super conservative to start off with and now are making a rack (even if redesigned to address other issues) available without changing the overall vehicle weight. I guess no one will know that answer until the MY22 specifications come out. I agree that getting this in Sep will be a stretch given everything else going on now with MIC top 2.0.
FE: 4 Dr, A51, NP
BRaptor: HPR; Original GT Res - 7/14/20
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Team F Cancer!!

Aug 17, 2021

#11
Thanks for the feedback..just seems like some things are not adding up like how a rack mounts effects GVWR, Center of Gravity I can see, but not Gross.

And so the thinking is not that the Top is going to change, but the actual rack itself will change. So folks with the v1 MIC will be able to purchase the Rack 2.0 and it will fit?

Guess time will tell, like most Bronco items
Well, given they are redoing the whole MIC I would probably guess that it depends on what they are changing for 21MY versus 22MY. Are they simply correcting the 21MY defects or will this 21MY recall be what they are going forward with into 22MY with no changes then? Something will have to change to meet GVWR requirements, but what is it??
WT HOSS 4dr 2.7 MIC Lux Tow
7/16/20 Res -- 1/22/21, 10/8/21 Order -- 3/24/22 VIN -- 5/9/22, 5/23/22, 5/16/22, 6/6/22, 6/17/22 Build 7/15/22 Delivered

Rank II

Aug 19, 2021

#12
Yeah..agreed, and very unfortunate because it's a great opportunity for Ford to regain some trust by being transparent about this.

I am just one person and this is just my opinion, but I think the whole B&P and GVWR was just a BS excuse and there is much more to this story.

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