Navigation Expiration

Nope, your not missing anything.

There are two navigation systems in the Bronco:

• Connected Navigation - Works basically like Apple Maps, Google Maps, Waze, etc. Like your cell phone, it requires a cellular data connection to work. The subscription you are paying for is actually an AT&T data line using the cellular modem built into your vehicle.
• Connected Built-In Navigation - This is basically your traditional TomTom/Garmin GPS system that is enhanced with weather and traffic data from the cellular data line. The weather/traffic portion requires a subscription, because—again—it’s using an AT&T data line. But the core GPS routing functionality works forever just like it works forever in your Garmin.

Connected Navigation comes standard on Mid and High package with a 3-month trial. Connected Build-In Navigation comes with the Lux package and has a 3-year trial. A big reason why Lux package is almost double the cost of the High package is because you are basically pre-paying for a three year data line.

Leland22

I appears that you have to pay for navigation after 3 months since mine has expired. Is that correct?

All I get now is where I am-which I know where I am so it is useless.

One day you might not know where you are, and then that will be some valuable info....

RagnarKon

Nope, your not missing anything.

There are two navigation systems in the Bronco:

• Connected Navigation - Works basically like Apple Maps, Google Maps, Waze, etc. Like your cell phone, it requires a cellular data connection to work. The subscription you are paying for is actually an AT&T data line using the cellular modem built into your vehicle.
• Connected Built-In Navigation - This is basically your traditional TomTom/Garmin GPS system that is enhanced with weather and traffic data from the cellular data line. The weather/traffic portion requires a subscription, because—again—it’s using an AT&T data line. But the core GPS routing functionality works forever just like it works forever in your Garmin.

Connected Navigation comes standard on Mid and High package with a 3-month trial. Connected Build-In Navigation comes with the Lux package and has a 3-year trial. A big reason why Lux package is almost double the cost of the High package is because you are basically pre-paying for a three year data line.

So if I understand correctly , my connected navigation on my high pkg after 90days will have no real functionality unless I subscribe. All my navigation will have to be done through my cell phone connection with my vehicle utilizing my phone data plan.

Mine just expired. Not a huge loss. I've got a company phone, plug it in, pull up Waze in Apps, works just fine. Plus it lets me know where cops are, where traffic is slow, etc.

Dirt Dog

So if I understand correctly , my connected navigation on my high pkg after 90days will have no real functionality unless I subscribe. All my navigation will have to be done through my cell phone connection with my vehicle utilizing my phone data plan.

Yes. The in-car navigation will give you a dot on a map if you don't pay for the subscription. The GPS receiver is still functioning, so it can tell you where you are... but it can't actually route you anywhere without that data plan that you pay for with your subscription. Exactly like when you are using your phone and run into a spot without cell service—it just gives you a dot on a map (or sometimes even a blank screen if you don't have the maps cached), but it can't actually route you anywhere. Here's an example from my smartphone... the GPS receiver is still active but I turned on Airplane mode to turn off the data connection, and then booted up Apple Maps. Just gives me a blank screen with a dot. It knows where I am, but can't route me anywhere or download the map data.



Ford's in-car navigation system is effectively a Blackberry disguise, so it has the same requirements and limitations as your smart phones. For most people this isn't a huge deal. Sync 4 comes with Android Auto and Apple CarPlay, and many people are perfectly happy using their phone for navigation anyway as it seamlessly integrates into your car's infotainment screen. But obviously if you don't want to use your phone for navigation, then you gotta pay the separate subscription unfortunately.

RagnarKon

Yes. The in-car navigation will give you a dot on a map if you don't pay for the subscription. The GPS receiver is still functioning, so it can tell you where you are... but it can't actually route you anywhere without that data plan that you pay for with your subscription. Exactly like when you are using your phone and run into a spot without cell service—it just gives you a dot on a map (or sometimes even a blank screen if you don't have the maps cached), but it can't actually route you anywhere. Here's an example from my smartphone... the GPS receiver is still active but I turned on Airplane mode to turn off the data connection, and then booted up Apple Maps. Just gives me a blank screen with a dot. It knows where I am, but can't route me anywhere or download the map data.

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Ford's in-car navigation system is effectively a Blackberry disguise, so it has the same requirements and limitations as your smart phones. For most people this isn't a huge deal. Sync 4 comes with Android Auto and Apple CarPlay, and many people are perfectly happy using their phone for navigation anyway as it seamlessly integrates into your car's infotainment screen. But obviously if you don't want to use your phone for navigation, then you gotta pay the separate subscription unfortunately.

Thanks @RagnarKon you are full of useful information ! At first I thought I could use the navigation like my wife's 2020 Fusion but it would not update the software. It's clearly different. Thanks again for the heads up.

Thanks for the feedback. How it all works was/is enlightening. Wish my Garmin would feed into it. :>) Come on Garmin-make it happen!
Lots of place I travel in the boondocks of New Mexico and Utah have no cell service and the Garmin has gotten us in and out.

RagnarKon

Nope, your not missing anything.

There are two navigation systems in the Bronco:

• Connected Navigation - Works basically like Apple Maps, Google Maps, Waze, etc. Like your cell phone, it requires a cellular data connection to work. The subscription you are paying for is actually an AT&T data line using the cellular modem built into your vehicle.
• Connected Built-In Navigation - This is basically your traditional TomTom/Garmin GPS system that is enhanced with weather and traffic data from the cellular data line. The weather/traffic portion requires a subscription, because—again—it’s using an AT&T data line. But the core GPS routing functionality works forever just like it works forever in your Garmin.

Connected Navigation comes standard on Mid and High package with a 3-month trial. Connected Build-In Navigation comes with the Lux package and has a 3-year trial. A big reason why Lux package is almost double the cost of the High package is because you are basically pre-paying for a three year data line.

I did not know this. Glad I have the Lux now. This is the best nav I have ever used not even close.