National Park Service Will Cite Drivers Of AWD Cars For Driving On 4WD-Only Trails

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Aug 09, 2024

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Aug 09, 2024

As one Subaru Crosstrek owner recently learned the hard way, it bears repeating that all-wheel drive is not the same as four-wheel drive. A Subie owner posted a warning letter they received a month after driving on Colorado River Overlook Road in Canyonlands National Park to the r/NationalPark subreddit. The letter notes that this particular road is restricted to 4WD vehicles only, and the Crosstrek is equipped with AWD, not 4WD. It also warns that they may face serious consequences if they’re caught taking an AWD caron a 4WD-only trail again.

The letter gently reminds the Crosstrek owner that future violations may incur a collateral forfeiture, a fine up to $5,000, up to six months imprisonment, and/or other penalties. While the difference between AWD and 4WD may seem like a pedantic argument, it’s an important distinction that could potentially save lives on technically challenging and isolated trails. Sure, the Crosstrek was able to successfully traverse this particular road, but the vehicle restrictions are in place for a reason, and they are enforceable. Despite wilderness-themed marketing tactics, vehicles equipped with AWD have very different capabilities than vehicles equipped with 4WD despite sharing a similar nomenclature.
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The most consequential distinction between AWD systems and more capable 4WD systems is that most vehicles equipped with 4WD have one or more locking differentials that massively aid in off-road traction. While AWD systems are great for increasing driver confidence on slippery road surfaces and in light off-roading, they are easily flummoxed in more challenging off-road terrain, especially low-speed and low-traction situations.

Locking the differential on a vehicle’s axle forces an even application of power to each wheel. Some AWD systems have brake-based limited-slip differentials, but these are still no substitute for locking differentials in traditional 4WD systems. A vehicle’s wheels are normally able to spin at different speeds when its differentials are not locked, which allows a wheel with no traction to spin freely while the wheel with traction does nothing. This could cause an AWD vehicle to get stuck in a spot that a 4WD vehicle with locking differentials could easily drive out of.
While experience, skill and a litany of other factors play into an off-roader’s likelihood of getting stuck, the National Park Service just wants to keep all visitors safe. For reference, neither Subaru, Tesla, Honda, Hyundai nor Kia make any 4WD vehicles. Toyota, Ford, Chevrolet, Jeep and more make some AWD vehicles and some 4WD vehicles. If you’re planning to visit a national park soon and aren’t sure if your vehicle has AWD or 4WD, research it to be safe, and avoid a citation.

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There is something about the badging of vehicles… I had a 2018 Escape 4WD which in reality was an AWD, but I remember my sales guy saying for some reason the badging on the car had to say 4WD…
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There is something about the badging of vehicles… I had a 2018 Escape 4WD which in reality was an AWD, but I remember my sales guy saying for some reason the badging on the car had to say 4WD…
Very good point, my Pacific-coast friend. I see so many pickups and mall crawlers with "4x4" badges, and often wonder: not whether that vehicle goes off-road, but whether it really can. A few observations:

1) When employed in law enforcement, I'd pull over Jeeps and pickups speeding on snow. "I've got four-wheel drive," I was usually told by the usually young male driver."
"Yeah," I'd answer, "So you can get through the plow furoughs blocking your driveway, but that doesn't mean you can turn or stop, not even with those tires." And often time it was AWD, not 4x4. Consumer ignorance is widespread.
2) I live in a student neighborhood. Lots of Tacos and Jeeps.
3) One guy had on his spare tire cover, "Don't Follow Me. You Won't Make It."
I asked him where he went off road. He didn't.`
4) Special consideration would be called for regarding EVs.
Ordinarily I don't like regulation, but maybe there could be industry-wide standards for badging. Would they go so far as to include FWD and RWD?
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Aug 09, 2024

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I read this yesterday. And I was probably on that trail the same time this Subi was there. We were on the Potash to Schafer switch-backs trail, and we saw all kinds of vehicles on that road. Not particularly difficult but there were some sketchy spots. I used 2-wheel drive the whole time but I am glad I had the 35”. We saw several Broncos, Yotas, Subi’s and even a Mazda CX-5. We saw him on the switchbacks coming down.
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The most consequential distinction between AWD systems and more capable 4WD systems is that most vehicles equipped with 4WD have one or more locking differentials that massively aid in off-road traction.

I understand them wanting to keep people safe and unstuck but this, IMO, is an odd thing to enforce if it's related to having lockers or not. The large majority of 4x4 vehicles on the road do not have lockers. Some might only have a front or a rear and some have both but there are a lot of 4x4's without any lockers at all.

Don't get me wrong, lockers are great and are invaluable if you plan on venturing off-road but there are a ton of 4x4's without them.

I guess my question is this, is the main reasoning for this enforcement because lockers or a lack thereof? Or was that part just the article adding additional information?
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Very good point, my Pacific-coast friend. I see so many pickups and mall crawlers with "4x4" badges, and often wonder: not whether that vehicle goes off-road, but whether it really can. A few observations:

1) When employed in law enforcement, I'd pull over Jeeps and pickups speeding on snow. "I've got four-wheel drive," I was usually told by the usually young male driver."
"Yeah," I'd answer, "So you can get through the plow furoughs blocking your driveway, but that doesn't mean you can turn or stop, not even with those tires." And often time it was AWD, not 4x4. Consumer ignorance is widespread.
2) I live in a student neighborhood. Lots of Tacos and Jeeps.
3) One guy had on his spare tire cover, "Don't Follow Me. You Won't Make It."
I asked him where he went off road. He didn't.`
4) Special consideration would be called for regarding EVs.
Ordinarily I don't like regulation, but maybe there could be industry-wide standards for badging. Would they go so far as to include FWD and RWD?

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I swear ossiffer, I only had two bee(hiccup)ers. 😇

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I swear ossiffer, I only had two bee(hiccup)ers. 😇
Bear in mind, I was enforcing traffic on snow in a Crown Vic.😐
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I'm just going to leave this here.
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Gee when they aren't petting bison they are clogging 4x4 trails.
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So what if you are in a 4WD and in AWD? I saw a bunch of guys flummoxed out side of the bar, is this the same thing mentioned above? Does this rule apply to the trail rating? There are a lot of NF trails that you can drive a car on, like a Prius. I wonder if the rule is the same in MI as UT or CO.
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Gee when they aren't petting bison they are clogging 4x4 trails.

And toilets….
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IMHO about 15% is the capability of the vehicle and 85+% is the driver. I live in NE OH. First time it gets icy/snow most of the vehicles crashed in the ditch are 4WD and AWD. Idiot drivers who think that because their vehicle is capable that they are to. Southern UT is one of My wife and I favorite places. I fly out to the SEMA show in Las Vegas early and rent a car. I love exploring. I have taken sedans, compacts, SUV's, mini vans, 2WD pickups, Mustangs even a Jeep into many of areas of UT and Death Valley that they were not the best choice of vehicles. As long as you use some common sense ( go when dry, not wet ), don't do stupid stuff or going in to areas that vastly exceed the capabilities of your vehicle all is usually good. The only problem I have had so far is 2 flats. One on the Jeep rental and one on my 2WD F150. Both times going to the Wedge overlook. Most of these excursions have been solo. Maybe I am crazy, but I have seen some amazing scenery and have had a shit load of fun doing it. Both times that I got flats my wife was with me, she must be the problem right? She holds me back, don't go there, don't do that, don't get so close to the edge ect. We have seen a lot of really stupid people in our travels. Lets get a selfie with the bison or the bull elk. Bull elk treed the dude, I was cheering for the elk! Last year at Yellowstone my wife had to stop some foreign woman from putting her bare foot in a boiling thermal pool. How the hell do some people survive?
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I live in NE OH. First time it gets icy/snow most of the vehicles crashed in the ditch are 4WD and AWD. Idiot drivers who think that because their vehicle is capable that they are to.
Per my post above, as a cop in a Northeast city, I stopped lots of usually young male drivers for speeding and redlight-running in slush and on snow. "I got 4-wheel drive, officer..."
Lets get a selfie with the bison or the bull elk. Bull elk treed the dude, I was cheering for the elk! Last year at Yellowstone my wife had to stop some foreign woman from putting her bare foot in a boiling thermal pool. How the hell do some people survive?
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