Ford Performance catch can results! -- I've been tricked

RagnarKon

So... several months ago I installed the Ford Performance catch can on my 2.3L Bronco.

It's been approx 5000 miles, and this past weekend I cracked it open... and... goose egg. Unless I'm missing something, it was big'ol waste of money. The UPR catch can did well though, so at least it wasn't a total waste of time.

Curious... has anyone installed the Ford Performance catch cans and actually got anything out of it??

Going to go watch the video now, but I'm glad you gave us an update. The inconsistency is what I don't like. Some people have absolutely nothing, and others have a few teaspoons.

Another great one, thanks @RagnarKon. It was worth the experiment to know.

Always enjoy your YouTube videos - Thank you! Installed J&L's catch can early on our new 2.7 with less than 100 miles. I found about 1/3 teaspoon oil after 1k mile. Just checked again with another 2k miles and there's probably just under a teaspoon.

FYI, our driving experiance may be very different though. We live at 7,500ft elevation, that's about 2,000 higher than Denver. We're round-tripping down there once or twice a week. Also, weekly trips into higher mountains put these fans to work. It's not unusual for my boost gauge to pass 20PSI going over an 11 or 12,000ft mountain pass.

J&L's can's easy to check, it's simply a cup threaded onto the inlet/outlet top assembly .. Easy - Peasy.




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Kenneth

Always enjoy your YouTube videos - Thank you! Installed J&L's catch can early on our new 2.7 with less than 100 miles. I found about 1/3 teaspoon oil after 1k mile. Just checked again with another 2k miles and there's probably just under a teaspoon.

FYI, our driving experiance may be very different though. We live at 7,500ft elevation, that's about 2,000 higher than Denver. We're round-tripping down there once or twice a week. Also, weekly trips into higher mountains put these fans to work. It's not unusual for my boost gauge pass 20PSI going over an 11 or 12,000ft mountain pass.

J&L's can's easy to check, it's simply a cup threaded onto the inlet/outlet top assembly .. Easy - Peasy.




Cheers

Nice! That's a similar amount of oil that I had in my UPR catch can when I emptied it this past June after behind installed in September last year (prior to this comparison test). About 2500 miles total.

The J&L catch can connects to the PCV system much like my UPR catch can. Those seem to do a decent job at collecting oil. Definitely wouldn't call it a necessary upgrade, but they do their job well.

But this Ford Performance catch can that connects to the CCV port... I just don't know about that one. Seems like snake oil based off of my experience.

Yeah, don't understand why CCV vs PVC inlet matters that much. I mean, both should capture blow-by .. perhaps PVC location is more efficient. Thanks again!!

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Maybe because the UPR caught the oil first so by the time it reached the FP can there is nothing to catch??? Just a thought.

RagnarKon

Nice! That's a similar amount of oil that I had in my UPR catch can when I emptied it this past June after behind installed in September last year (prior to this comparison test). About 2500 miles total.

The J&L catch can connects to the PCV system much like my UPR catch can. Those seem to do a decent job at collecting oil. Definitely wouldn't call it a necessary upgrade, but they do their job well.

But this Ford Performance catch can that connects to the CCV port... I just don't know about that one. Seems like snake oil based off of my experience.

It's because the the Ford Performance set up is connected to the CCV port. I had a catch-can/Air Oil Separator set up on my Subaru STi that was connected to the PVC system and I'd get 1 to 2 teaspoons every oil change, depending on the Season.

There’s a lot of Ford Performance and other vendor aftermarket parts that are either no value, limited value or detrimental to your vehicle. Why do you think many of them reduce or void factory or extended warranties?
Let the buyer beware.

2.7
UPR catch can
2500 miles, the can was was as clean as new. But the "wire mesh filter" I could see black discoloration in it, where originally it was bright and shiny. Hopefully no oil is a good thing??? 🤷‍♂️

Anyone operating in boost alot will see more results (High altitude). But imo, non-performance builds don't need the catch can.

On the other hand, if you install equipment that increases boost levels, or in my case, also add a water/meth injection system, then the catch can is a must.

I am definitely not going to let a teaspoon or two of oil make me consider spending the money on a catch can. The 2.7 has direct and port injection. Actually, I've never had a catch can on any vehicle I've ever owned. Never had any engine issues.

timhood

I am definitely not going to let a teaspoon or two of oil make me consider spending the money on a catch can. The 2.7 has direct and port injection. Actually, I've never had a catch can on any vehicle I've ever owned. Never had any engine issues.

How many twin turbo engines?

timhood

I am definitely not going to let a teaspoon or two of oil make me consider spending the money on a catch can. The 2.7 has direct and port injection. Actually, I've never had a catch can on any vehicle I've ever owned. Never had any engine issues.

I installed a Mishimoto one on my 2.7 Bronco. Checked it at 1000 miles and was bone dry. What a waste. I removed it…

Have one on my Audi and It catches a bunch of crud. Have another on my Boss Mustang roadrunner engine and it catches a small amount of oil.

Mikes2021Bronco

How many twin turbo engines?

Two twin turbos, but neither have I owned long enough to have any credible history. Both have dual injection technology. But, I've had another EcoBoost (single turbo) for 10+ years with no powertrain repairs at all. Specific to oil catch cans, I don't think it matters if it's a single or twin-turbo. Actually, I don't think turbos even factor in at all. I think it's more about direct injection engines.

adcam

Maybe because the UPR caught the oil first so by the time it reached the FP can there is nothing to catch??? Just a thought.

This is what I'm wondering also... Would the FP setup catch much of the same blow-by oil if it were installed by itself? Would be interesting to hear from someone that has just the Ford version installed on 2.3L

Fillups

This is what I'm wondering also... Would the FP setup catch much of the same blow-by oil if it were installed by itself? Would be interesting to hear from someone that has just the Ford version installed on 2.3L

Will let you know after 10K miles :)

I just checked mine this evening. I have about 8,000 miles since I last checked. About to table spoons full. I have the 2.3l
I have a direct injection NA car with 360k never had a catch can on it but looking at this oil in this catch can I am glad I put it on. It is the J&L oil separator @ $160.00 cheap insurance.
Edit: this is a PCV system catch can not the CCV. Sorry for any confusion.

You had two catch cans... why would you not expect one to catch oil and the other not to catch any?

Eninty

You had two catch cans... why would you not expect one to catch oil and the other not to catch any?

Two completely different parts of the engine.

One is connected to the PCV valve which is located on the lower crankcase (bottom of the engine). The other is at the CCV port on the top of valve cover. Normally I would expected very little to no pressurized air on the top to the valve cover—if you did have air flow that suggests either the PCV system isn't working or you have head gasket issues.

Either way... one catch can is not "downstream" of the other catch can, and if I didn't have the UPR catch can in place, that air (with the contaminants) will still have flowed out of the PCV valve back into the intake.

But yet... Ford's doesn't sell a catch can that connects to the PCV system, they only sell one that connects to the CCV port—which is the exact opposite of what every aftermarket catch can does. So the question was... why?