Ford Patents System for Self-Repossessing Vehicles

Sulley

Ford Patents System for Self-Repossessing Vehicles

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a43126498/ford-patent-autonomous-systems-vehicle-repossession/

• Ford has filed a patent with the USPTO for systems and methods that aid in vehicle repossession, as first reported by The Drive.
• One of the systems described in the patent enables an autonomous vehicle to repossess itself.
• Other methods suggest limiting vehicle functions (A/C, power windows, power seats, etc.) and even locking delinquent owners out of their vehicles.

So this one I'm indifferent on. I don't like that they are wanting to completely control our vehicles because if hackers or other government agencies get a hold of that they can control where we go or what our car does. On the other hand if you get a vehicle and don't pay the loan they have every right to take your car from you as it's not yours its the banks until you pay it off.

IL21Bronco

So this one I'm indifferent on. I don't like that they are wanting to completely control our vehicles because if hackers or other government agencies get a hold of that they can control where we go or what our car does. On the other hand if you get a vehicle and don't pay the loan they have every right to take your car from you as it's not yours its the banks until you pay it off.

This won't stop for owners who "don't pay the loan". Once everything in society is digital, and the back-end means of the control is managed by someone else (government, companies, whomever), you will lose access to whatever they control, whenever they want.

Remember a couple years ago when people were losing their jobs for private opinion posts they made on social media? Remember when the government was watching parents who spoke up at school meetings against CRT?

I hate to start the day like this, but I strongly advise everyone to be wise in the coming years...

My opinion is that Ford should focus on making cars and not supporting the credit industry. This feels like a violation of the trust Ford expects people to put into connected vehicles… before there are even fully connected vehicles. I typically don’t go into debt to buy a car, but knowing some manufacturer has added tech to disable it on a whim definitely pushes me into looking at other manufacturers. If this becomes standard practice, I guess I’ll get into car hacking.

Sulley

My opinion is that Ford should focus on making cars and not supporting the credit industry. This feels like a violation of the trust Ford expects people to put into connected vehicles… before there are even fully connected vehicles. I typically don’t go into debt to buy a car, but knowing some manufacturer has added tech to disable it on a whim definitely pushes me into looking at other manufacturers. If this becomes standard practice, I guess I’ll get into car hacking.

Ford is surviving on Ford credit.
People wonder why I'm against EVs and autonomous vehicles, this why
But they asked for it.

Bronco V-8

Ford is surviving on Ford credit.
People wonder why I'm against EVs and autonomous vehicles, this why
But they asked for it.

In Soviet Russia, car steals you!

Bronco V-8

People wonder why I'm against EVs and autonomous vehicles, this is why.

BINGO

Ford also patented a "screen door" for the Bronco, doesn't mean it's going into production---calm down folks, your Bronco isn't going to go roaming in the middle of the night back to your dealer or repo company impound lot.

https://www.autoblog.com/2022/05/02/ford-bronco-screen-door-patent-application/

frdfan

Ford also patented a "screen door" for the Bronco, doesn't mean it's going into production---calm down folks, your Bronco isn't going to go roaming in the middle of the night back to your dealer or repo company impound lot.

https://www.autoblog.com/2022/05/02/ford-bronco-screen-door-patent-application/

Software features are a lot easier to implement, even if they live as dormant code. In my experience, once this lands in the code, somebody will find a use for it. If Ford Credit doesn't use it to repossess vehicles, it may end up being used by law enforcement to disable vehicles just as it's used to locate them today.

Sulley

Software features are a lot easier to implement, even if they live as dormant code. In my experience, once this lands in the code, somebody will find a use for it. If Ford Credit doesn't use it to repossess vehicles, it may end up being used by law enforcement to disable vehicles just as it's used to locate them today.

you mean like OnStar? It's not the end of the world and it probably won't see the light of day in our lifetimes...

frdfan

you mean like OnStar? It's not the end of the world and it probably won't see the light of day in our lifetimes...

Pretty sure OnStar has been used to activate the microphone and eavesdrop on suspects, not to mention the APIs they provide for tracking virtually anyone.

IL21Bronco

So this one I'm indifferent on. I don't like that they are wanting to completely control our vehicles because if hackers or other government agencies get a hold of that they can control where we go or what our car does. On the other hand if you get a vehicle and don't pay the loan they have every right to take your car from you as it's not yours its the banks until you pay it off.

But you don't owe Ford the money. Ford is installing a mechanism for the vehicle to be repossessed, or controlled by someone other than the owner. Even if you had a note on it, if it were "owned" by the bank, you only owe the bank for some period of time. Access or control of the vehicle is for the life of the vehicle.

Another consideration is a bank won't have "control", they won't have an IT professional at ABC bank flipping the switch or sending the vehicle to an arbitrary lot for repossessed cars. If they do this at all, it will be a third-party company with a contract, a "repo" company contracted to perform this service.

The control will lie with government agencies, law enforcement, and companies that you don't have a direct relationship with.

And we thought big brother was a problem. This is another time when I can say. I am very happy that I’m old.

GeoBig

This won't stop for owners who "don't pay the loan". Once everything in society is digital, and the back-end means of the control is managed by someone else (government, companies, whomever), you will lose access to whatever they control, whenever they want.

Remember a couple years ago when people were losing their jobs for private opinion posts they made on social media? Remember when the government was watching parents who spoke up at school meetings against CRT?

I hate to start the day like this, but I strongly advise everyone to be wise in the coming years...

It’s going to happen sooner than people realize . Hopefully by then I’ll be dead. The younger generation is going to have to Wise up and grow a pair. Sorry if this offends anyone but then again, if you’re offended by the statement, maybe you’re part of the problem.

Sulley

My opinion is that Ford should focus on making cars and not supporting the credit industry. This feels like a violation of the trust Ford expects people to put into connected vehicles… before there are even fully connected vehicles. I typically don’t go into debt to buy a car, but knowing some manufacturer has added tech to disable it on a whim definitely pushes me into looking at other manufacturers. If this becomes standard practice, I guess I’ll get into car hacking.

These are definitely times when I wished I had my 1964 Plymouth sport fury back in my garage.

Sulley

Software features are a lot easier to implement, even if they live as dormant code. In my experience, once this lands in the code, somebody will find a use for it. If Ford Credit doesn't use it to repossess vehicles, it may end up being used by law enforcement to disable vehicles just as it's used to locate them today.

It’s always about more power and more control. Can anyone else see where this is going?. That was a rhetorical question. I’m sure many of you can..

Pretty soon you’ll hear in county song, “Radio reminds me of my Ford Far away”

The country music of the future will be all about how your Ford left you.

Bronco 202?

It’s always about more power and more control. Can anyone else see where this is going?. That was a rhetorical question. I’m sure many of you can..

This is not a rhetorical question. It's very real. New and powerful methods of social, financial, and political control are being developed. Call me paranoid, but the infrastructure is being set up, a little here, a little there, and can be expanded and implemented later. Consider home thermostats ("Nest") and utility meters that can be controlled remotely--in case there's a health or "climate" emergency or something. Nice to know if your Amazon package is here, but they can also tell if you violated quarantine. Men who participated in the Canadian truckers' protest convoy found their business accounts frozen and donations to their "GoFundMe" accounts confiscated. Don't dismiss this as "Well, that's Canada." We have "civil forfeiture procedures" in the USA.

And now we have very powerful AI with "woke" values built into all this: a digital Frankenstein model.

Don't think the Davos crowd will have to give up their gas stoves or private jets, either.

PS: I had a similar post written at 6G, but decided not to post it lest I get banned. Sure, they're a private-property website and not beholding to the US 1st Amendment, but it demonstrates how social media cooperates (or submits) to powerful, "official" narratives.

You’re not Paranoid you’re just realistic and observing what’s going on around you? these are not political statements that we are making they are statements of fact, and the fact is politics is surrounding us, and controlling us more and more what’s going on in Canada is going to come this way sooner than people realize that’s why there are so many people in the government trying to take the pew pews away. 🫣.