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Do we need the Auto start/shut off?

por2guesefella
Feb 08, 2021

Rank V

Feb 08, 2021

This has been bothering me ever since this feature has been introduced in the automotive world. When Ford started installing the Auto start/shut-off, the feature has shown nothing but cringe when operating.
I have driven 2020 Lincoln Aviator (2.7L V6), 2021 Ford Ranger (currently driving) and 2017 Land Rover Discovery Diesel. From my experience and driving all these vehicles for some time I have noticed a dramatic difference of disappointment of what these features supposed to do for us. In the Aviator I did a trip from Northern VA to NY recently and noticed a difference. Heading to NY the car has burned more fuel with the feature turned on, in return with the feature turned off the Vehicle gained about 100 miles more then the other function being on. Same goes for the Ranger with the stop and go traffic in DC metro area. As far as the Land Rover the starter got tosted after 40k miles.
To end this, why is this features is being use? I haven't seen any benefits in any of the cars. Sure data online prove it works, but in reality it does not. I know this feature is going to be on the bronco just wish Ford ditch this feature completely. I rather pay for a bronco to last not a future money pit.
Deano Bronc, Jakob1972
Last edited by a moderator: Feb 08, 2021
Moderator

Life is a Highway

Feb 08, 2021

#1
I have a 2018 Edge with the auto start and it hasn’t made any difference in mileage if I use it or not. Maybe I got lucky with mine
por2guesefella

Gladesmen

Feb 08, 2021

#2
por2guesefella
This has been bothering me ever since this feature has been introduced in the automotive world. When Ford started installing the Auto start/shut-off, the feature has shown nothing but cringe when operating.
I have driven 2020 Lincoln Aviator (2.7L V6), 2021 Ford Ranger (currently driving) and 2017 Land Rover Discovery Diesel. From my experience and driving all these vehicles for some time I have noticed a dramatic difference of disappointment of what these features supposed to do for us. In the Aviator I did a trip from Northern VA to NY recently and noticed a difference. Heading to NY the car has burned more fuel with the feature turned on, in return with the feature turned off the Vehicle gained about 100 miles more then the other function being on. Same goes for the Ranger with the stop and go traffic in DC metro area. As far as the Land Rover the starter got tosted after 40k miles.
To end this, why is this features is being use? I haven't seen any benefits in any of the cars. Sure data online prove it works, but in reality it does not. I know this feature is going to be on the bronco just wish Ford ditch this feature completely. I rather pay for a bronco to last not a future money pit.
I am with you. Hopefully one day they will see the light and ditch the most annoying thing ever added to a vehicle. At least you can turn it off in the ford in my equinox I just have to keep it moving slowly to keep it from shutting off
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Deano Bronc, por2guesefella

Rank V

Feb 08, 2021

#3
TK1215
I have a 2018 Edge with the auto start and it hasn’t made any difference in mileage if I use it or not. Maybe I got lucky with mine
Point still proven, if it made no difference for you, then why have it.

Rank 0

Feb 08, 2021

#4
It's all BS for the most part, it's for the woke folks to feel like they are hero's.
Wait until they make gas and tax on gas engines so expensive it will force everyone into EV :sick:
399OE, okie4570
Moderator

Life is a Highway

Feb 08, 2021

#5
We are talking about the remote start? While away from the vehicle, correct? I use mine for cold starts in the morning and then I just push the button later? It is simply For convenience right? Should make no difference driving wise right? Nice to start it before I leave the house. Stays locked so no one can drive away. Maybe I am misunderstanding your point. It shouldn’t make any difference regarding mileage. Unless you let it sit idling for a long time

Rank V

Feb 08, 2021

#6
Cyberbro
It's all BS for the most part, it's for the woke folks to feel like they are hero's.
Wait until they make gas and tax on gas engines so expensive it will force everyone into EV :sick:

Not looking forward to that anytime soon. Here's a video I enjoy about EV and being green.

The real heros are the one who's restoring old cars and making them last longer. Not buying Tesla or EV cars.
Cyberbro

Rank V

Feb 08, 2021

#7
TK1215
We are talking about the remote start? While away from the vehicle, correct? I use mine for cold starts in the morning and then I just push the button later? It is simply For convenience right? Should make no difference driving wise right? Nice to start it before I leave the house. Stays locked so no one can drive away. Maybe I am misunderstanding your point. It shouldn’t make any difference regarding mileage. Unless you let it sit idling for a long time
No, we are talking about the feature when you get to the light and the vehicle shut off automatically at a red light and start back up when let go the brake pedal.
Deano Bronc, TK1215
Moderator

Life is a Highway

Feb 08, 2021

#8
I got it you are talking about how vehicle cut off at stop lights and turn back on when you begin to go again. Totally misunderstood your thread title. That crap is stupid. Confused it with remote start and shut off
Deano Bronc, por2guesefella

Home, home on the range

Feb 08, 2021

#9
I agree. Most annoying option ever. Glad we can shut it off.
2022 Bronco Black Diamond 2dr 2.3L manual Hot Pepper Red. Reserved 8/7/20. Ordered 1/23/21. Reordered 10/08/21. Scheduled week of January 24th 2022, delivered 2/24/2022
por2guesefella

Rank V

Feb 08, 2021

#10
Sdakotabronco
I agree. Most annoying option ever. Glad we can shut it off.
But we have to do this manually everytime we started up the vehicle. If we install the eliminator, just like the DEF issue, we void the factory warranty. Yet the factory-installed feature damage the life of our investment.
PSUTE

Rank V

Feb 08, 2021

#11
por2guesefella
But we have to do it manually everytime we started up the vehicle. If we install the eliminator, just like the DEF issue, we void warranty.
Agree, but I manually turn off my Canadian safety headlights during daytime start ups anyway. Turn on the key, pull out the manual choke, and hit the starter, then feather the gas, go to 1/2 choke when it catches up, once engine is roaring, push in the choke and start driving. These steps may or may not have been part of my early driving experiences...
'21 AMB Basesquatch 2 Door. 2.7. 569 days from reservation to delivery
Deano Bronc, por2guesefella
Moderator

Life is a Highway

Feb 08, 2021

#12
The idiot powers that be, seem to think that because this shut off feature doesn't allow idling it cuts off emissions. The problem it that the “gross polluting” they are talking about is prolonged idling as in a big rig. I am pretty sure it takes just as much fuel to start and stop an engine as opposed to sitting for a minute in traffic. Then add in the wear and tear on your vehicle. I am all for green and clean but they are ridiculous.
Deano Bronc, por2guesefella
Moderator

Life is a Highway

Feb 08, 2021

#13
PSUTE
Agree, but I manually turn off my Canadian safety headlights during daytime start ups anyway. Turn on the key, pull out the manual choke, and hit the starter, then feather the gas, go to 1/2 choke when it catches up, once engine is roaring, push in the choke and start driving. These steps may or may not have been part of my early driving experiences...
Your car has a key? What the heck is with that anyways :ROFLMAO:
PSUTE, Slownstddy

Rank VI

Feb 08, 2021

#14
TK1215
We are talking about the remote start? While away from the vehicle, correct? I use mine for cold starts in the morning and then I just push the button later? It is simply For convenience right? Should make no difference driving wise right? Nice to start it before I leave the house. Stays locked so no one can drive away. Maybe I am misunderstanding your point. It shouldn’t make any difference regarding mileage. Unless you let it sit idling for a long time
No. They are talking about the auto shut off of the engine when coming to a complete stop and then it restarts automatically when you let off of the brake. It’s standard on many vehicles now. Our escape had it and our ecosport does. Both give you a button to disable it. It’s to save fuel they say but if your not sitting in big city traffic for a while I don’t see it. I always shut it off. The bronco has the same button to disable it. You can also tune it and have them shut it off for good. Another trick when driving with it is to slightly let up on the brake pedal after stopping and the engine will start back up. It will not shut off again if you increase pedal pressure again either. You don’t let off the brake enough that the vehicle moves. Just a slight decrease of pressure.
por2guesefella, Deano Bronc

Rank VI

Feb 08, 2021

#15
It
por2guesefella
Point still proven, if it made no difference for you, then why have it.
Sreally not about fuel mileage. They could care less if your getting 45 or 10. Its about exhaust from the engine. But starting so manytimesputs out more exhaust from the engine and the electric starter that it really is worse. These people who think we have ANY impact on global climate are idiots and this wholegreen movement is all about controlling resource usage for only those who can pay the price for them.
The latest mount ST Helens eruption put more greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere than man has since thebeginning of the industrial age. Look it up.I did.
2021 4 door Badlands Sasquatch, Rapid red. 2.7, high package. Reserved on 07-19-2020, ordered 01-20-2021, delivered 12-05-2021
Buckin', por2guesefella

Rank IV

Feb 08, 2021

#16
There are a couple ways to permanently turn the feature off.

  1. If trailer plug equipped you can plug a light into the trailer plug and it will prevent the auto shutoff as the system thinks you are pulling a trailer.
  2. Aftermarket on F150-F550 offers a device that plugs into switch that uses resistance to trick the system to thinking the button is pushed.
  3. Max AC will also trick the system, but who wants to drive around with max AC all the time.
  4. Outside temp will also play a factor
This is a way for OEM's to meet government MPG regulations on their fleet. Thank big brother for this feature.
KennyMac, Slownstddy

Rank VI

Feb 08, 2021

#17
TK1215
The idiot powers that be, seem to think that because this shut off feature doesn't allow idling it cuts off emissions. The problem it that the “gross polluting” they are talking about is prolonged idling as in a big rig. I am pretty sure it takes just as much fuel to start and stop an engine as opposed to sitting for a minute in traffic. Then add in the wear and tear on your vehicle. I am all for green and clean but they are ridiculous.
Ok..ok...waita minute. I've driven big trucks(rigs) for 23 years. The exhaust from idling is NOT a "GROSS" polutant. Diesel exhaust contains less nox than gasoline. Dont fall for thier ploy about Diesel. Its cleaner and more economical than gas.
...it doesnt take as much refining(less emmissions)
....Burns cleaner in a maintained motor...
.....better compression rates giving for less used when under engine load....
Really is a better automitive option.
2021 4 door Badlands Sasquatch, Rapid red. 2.7, high package. Reserved on 07-19-2020, ordered 01-20-2021, delivered 12-05-2021
TK1215, por2guesefella

No Ragerts

Feb 08, 2021

#18
I have the auto start/stop coded out on several vehicles. Just ask your dealer to do it during your next service!
- 2023 Raptor / Shadow Black / MGV (DOB 8/30/23)
- 2023 Heritage Limited Edition / Robin’s Egg Blue / 4dr / (stolen from my dealer 11/15/23)
Sdakotabronco

Rank V

Feb 08, 2021

#19
Certain GOAT modes will disable the auto shutoff as well. In my Explorer ST, for example, Sport Mode will disable that feature. Which is great, because Sport Mode is a lot of fun with a 3.0L twin-turbo Ecoboost engine!

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