Bilstein 6100's and 35x11.50R17's Installed

raqball
Aug 20, 2024

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Aug 20, 2024

I didn't see a thread on Bilstein 6100's so I thought I'd share my experience with them. I have a 2023 Badlands - non Sasquatch, 2dr.

I did not do the install myself and had Total Offroad in Portland, OR do it. It took them 2 hours to complete the install of all 4 of the 6100's, which is insanely fast. (see paid invoice for the non believers). I had other shops quote me between 5-7 hours of labor or about $1K just for the install then additional for alignment.. WTF? Yeah, shop around people..

The 6100's gave me slightly more lift in the front and in the rear than advertised. Here are the numbers I ended up getting with the clip portion used..

Front 6100: Clip position 5 = 2 1/2"
Rear 6100: Clip position 1 = 1"

I have about 100+ pounds added to the front via winch, winch mount and ARB dual. I now have about 1/2" of rake.

Please don't ask me about MPG as I do not care about MPG and it's not something I've ever kept track of, especially if you are planning on lifting or slapping on 35's or larger. Look at it as SPG (Smiles Per Gallon) and you'll be much happier than worrying about few MPG difference on a lifted 4x4.

Tire road noise? I am probably not the best person report on this as I roll with the top off 24/7 from the start of Spring until the end of Fall. I also don't really care about road noise as I'll just turn the radio up a notch or two. 😜 I guess come winter time when I slap the hardtop back on I could give an opinion on road noise.

As I expected, the on-road ride quality is slightly diminished with the 6100's -vs- the stock Badlands shocks. You feel the bumps and differences / imperfections in the road a bit more. Fine by me as they were purchased for their off-road improvements.

I've only had them on for 2 days now so maybe as they settle in, the on-road ride quality will improve but I honestly couldn't care less if they don't. It's fine for me.

The Flaken Wildpeak A/T4W 35x11.50R17's were just installed today so I have almost nothing to report on with them. In anticipation for the 35's, I did order a 3rd brake light extension bracket for the spare. It's a good thing I did as the 35's would have covered it up otherwise. They are the C rated version and weight 68 LBS each.

I am heading out tomorrow morning to do some off-roading for the day so I'll have some initial thoughts on their off-road performance once I get back. I'll update this post as I go and get a better feel for the on-road and off-road performance of the 6100's.

Front:




Rear:




Bronco: (snapped a quick photo when dropping off my old tires at my public storage unit) Better photos coming tomorrow.




Poke: 1.75" Bora Wheel Spacers on Ford Performance 17x8 Wheels with Wildpeak A/T4W 35x11.50R17's.

And while you are at it, look at all that glorious pinstriping.. I am a bad Bronco owner! 😇



Install Invoice: Needed new gloves so I bought some of those as well. ;)

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Moving Chicane, the poacher

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Aug 20, 2024

#1
Looks good! So you did you buy the 6100’s elsewhere and just paid for labor for the install?
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raqball

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Aug 20, 2024

#2
Looks good! So you did you buy the 6100’s elsewhere and just paid for labor for the install?

Correct... 2 hours of labor, an alignment and some new gloves because my old gloves were trash.. 😂

I got a killer deal on the 6100's at $800 for all 4 - shipped and delivered..

I could have got the alignment done at Firestone for free as I have their lifetime alignment thing but since I just had them do a free one a few weeks ago, I didn't want to push it. That alignment had to be done ASAP and could not wait due to it getting seriously knocked out of whack on the trails.

2 hours to install all 4 is crazy fast! Most shops were telling me anywhere between 5-7 hours of labor. Total Offroad had originally quoted me 3-4 hours but they had it done in 2.. Since they got it done so fast I just had them do the alignment instead of driving to a Firestone.
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the poacher, EvlNvrDys

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Aug 21, 2024

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I didn't see a thread on Bilstein 6100's so I thought I'd share my experience with them. I have a 2023 Badlands - non Sasquatch, 2dr.

I did not do the install myself and had Total Offroad in Portland, OR do it. It took them 2 hours to complete the install of all 4 of the 6100's, which is insanely fast. (see paid invoice for the non believers). I had other shops quote me between 5-7 hours of labor or about $1K just for the install then additional for alignment.. WTF? Yeah, shop around people..

The 6100's gave me slightly more lift in the front and in the rear than advertised. Here are the numbers I ended up getting with the clip portion used..

Front 6100: Clip position 5 = 2 1/2"
Rear 6100: Clip position 1 = 1"

I have about 100+ pounds added to the front via winch, winch mount and ARB dual. I now have about 1/2" of rake.

Please don't ask me about MPG as I do not care about MPG and it's not something I've ever kept track of, especially if you are planning on lifting or slapping on 35's or larger. Look at it as SPG (Smiles Per Gallon) and you'll be much happier than worrying about few MPG difference on a lifted 4x4.

Tire road noise? I am probably not the best person report on this as I roll with the top off 24/7 from the start of Spring until the end of Fall. I also don't really care about road noise as I'll just turn the radio up a notch or two. 😜 I guess come winter time when I slap the hardtop back on I could give an opinion on road noise.

As I expected, the on-road ride quality is slightly diminished with the 6100's -vs- the stock Badlands shocks. You feel the bumps and differences / imperfections in the road a bit more. Fine by me as they were purchased for their off-road improvements.

I've only had them on for 2 days now so maybe as they settle in, the on-road ride quality will improve but I honestly couldn't care less if they don't. It's fine for me.

The Flaken Wildpeak A/T4W 35x11.50R17's were just installed today so I have almost nothing to report on with them. In anticipation for the 35's, I did order a 3rd brake light extension bracket for the spare. It's a good thing I did as the 35's would have covered it up otherwise.

I am heading out tomorrow morning to do some off-roading for the day so I'll have some initial thoughts on their off-road performance once I get back. I'll update this post as I go and get a better feel for the on-road and off-road performance of the 6100's.

Front:




Rear:




Bronco: (snapped a quick photo when dropping off my old tires at my public storage unit) Better photos coming tomorrow.




Poke: 1.75" Bora Wheel Spacers on Ford Performance 17x8 Wheels with Wildpeak A/T4W 35x11.50R17's.

And while you are at it, look at all that glorious pinstriping.. I am a bad Bronco owner! 😇



Install Invoice: Needed new gloves so I bought some of those as well. ;)

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Looks great! As you know I'm a big fan of the Falkens.
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raqball

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Aug 21, 2024

#4
Correct... 2 hours of labor, an alignment and some new gloves because my old gloves were trash.. 😂

I got a killer deal on the 6100's at $800 for all 4 - shipped and delivered..

I could have got the alignment done at Firestone for free as I have their lifetime alignment thing but since I just had them do a free one a few weeks ago, I didn't want to push it. That alignment had to be done ASAP and could not wait due to it getting seriously knocked out of whack on the trails.

2 hours to install all 4 is crazy fast! Most shops were telling me anywhere between 5-7 hours of labor. Total Offroad had originally quoted me 3-4 hours but they had it done in 2.. Since they got it done so fast I just had them do the alignment instead of driving to a Firestone.

I will agree, 2 hours is a fast install. I did the rear shocks myself and that's probably an hour or so, and those are the easy ones. The fronts are the PIA. Did they put new wheel nuts on or reuse old? Last time I did fronts, one of the nuts had screwed up threads, probably came that way from factory as CV axle had bad threads as well. Plus I've read about alot of people seeing those nuts as being 1 time use as well, seems to be an issue for some.
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raqball

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Aug 21, 2024

#5
I will agree, 2 hours is a fast install. I did the rear shocks myself and that's probably an hour or so, and those are the easy ones. The fronts are the PIA. Did they put new wheel nuts on or reuse old? Last time I did fronts, one of the nuts had screwed up threads, probably came that way from factory as CV axle had bad threads as well. Plus I've read about alot of people seeing those nuts as being 1 time use as well, seems to be an issue for some.

They didn't say anything about having to replace them but I already had aftermarket ones installed. Also, this is a good time to say - always check work, even if a shop does it.

Headed out for a fun day of off-roading today. I'm going to an area I've never been and the trails are hard to gauge. They look to be easy but there are several that might have a bit of a challenge to them.

Hopefully at least one will be challenging so I can put the 6100's to the test.
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Aug 21, 2024

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Went out for a full'lish day of off-roading. Left at 6am and got on the trails about 7. Wheeled until about 2PM then headed home as I need to meet a dude at 4 who is buying the Toyo tires I took off.

I hit 4 unmapped trails in the area and while 3 were what I'd consider easy, one became a challenge that I eventually had to abandon. More on that in the trip report thread I'll post later.

The 6100's performed awesome and I am very happy with the swap. Sure it's only one trip but they felt more grounded, secure and the Bronco felt like it was stuck to the trail no matter how it flexed. The Bronco just handled better and felt much more stable.

At the start of the 1st trail, I encountered washboards and with the stock Badlands shocks I was thrown all over the place on washboards. These stuck me to the trail and I never felt out of control. I know it's not an exact comparison as all washboards are not created equal, but I could tell these easily outperformed the stock stocks.

Just quick notes for now and some photos. I need a shower then I gotta go meet the dude buying my Toyo's..

I need more trail time and over different trail conditions but after one days use off-road, I am very happy with them.

No real comments on the new 35" Wildpeak's, they are fine. But then again my 34" Toyo's were fine. Both are great tires and thus far, I don't think one is better than the other.

A few photos showing the Bronco stance and a few images of the terrain I encountered today. I'll post more photos later in my separate trip report..

Bronco with the 6100's and 35x11.5R17

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Some of the terrain: (photos never do a trail justice) The 2nd and 3rd photo are of the trail that I had to eventually abandon.

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Aug 21, 2024

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Went out for a full'lish day of off-roading. Left at 6am and got on the trails about 7. Wheeled until about 2PM then headed home as I need to meet a dude at 4 who is buying the Toyo tires I took off.

I hit 4 unmapped trails in the area and while 3 were what I'd consider easy, one became a challenge that I eventually had to abandon. More on that in the trip report thread I'll post later.

The 6100's performed awesome and I am very happy with the swap. Sure it's only one trip but they felt more grounded, secure and the Bronco felt like it was stuck to the trail no matter how it flexed. The Bronco just handled better and felt much more stable.

At the start of the 1st trail, I encountered washboards and with the stock Badlands shocks I was thrown all over the place on washboards. These stuck me to the trail and I never felt out of control. I know it's not an exact comparison as all washboards are not created equal, but I could tell these easily outperformed the stock stocks.

Just quick notes for now and some photos. I need a shower then I gotta go meet the dude buying my Toyo's..

I need more trail time and over different trail conditions but after one days use off-road, I am very happy with them.

No real comments on the new 35" Wildpeak's, they are fine. But then again my 34" Toyo's were fine. Both are great tires and thus far, I don't think one is better than the other.

A few photos showing the Bronco stance and a few images of the terrain I encountered today. I'll post more photos later in my separate trip report..

Bronco with the 6100's and 35x11.5R17

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Some of the terrain: (photos never do a trail justice) The 2nd and 3rd photo are of the trail that I had to eventually abandon.

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Aug 23, 2024

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Went out for a full'lish day of off-roading. Left at 6am and got on the trails about 7. Wheeled until about 2PM then headed home as I need to meet a dude at 4 who is buying the Toyo tires I took off.

I hit 4 unmapped trails in the area and while 3 were what I'd consider easy, one became a challenge that I eventually had to abandon. More on that in the trip report thread I'll post later.

The 6100's performed awesome and I am very happy with the swap. Sure it's only one trip but they felt more grounded, secure and the Bronco felt like it was stuck to the trail no matter how it flexed. The Bronco just handled better and felt much more stable.

At the start of the 1st trail, I encountered washboards and with the stock Badlands shocks I was thrown all over the place on washboards. These stuck me to the trail and I never felt out of control. I know it's not an exact comparison as all washboards are not created equal, but I could tell these easily outperformed the stock stocks.

Just quick notes for now and some photos. I need a shower then I gotta go meet the dude buying my Toyo's..

I need more trail time and over different trail conditions but after one days use off-road, I am very happy with them.

No real comments on the new 35" Wildpeak's, they are fine. But then again my 34" Toyo's were fine. Both are great tires and thus far, I don't think one is better than the other.

A few photos showing the Bronco stance and a few images of the terrain I encountered today. I'll post more photos later in my separate trip report..

Bronco with the 6100's and 35x11.5R17

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Some of the terrain: (photos never do a trail justice) The 2nd and 3rd photo are of the trail that I had to eventually abandon.

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Hey bro not to sound rude but your comparing factory shocks to aftermarket. I’ve been off-roading for a while now (Over 20 years). You started with a stock badlands and you do get what you pay for with ford. You swapped out tires and shocks so you could say it was the shocks that are making your Bronco perform better BUT in my opinion it’s the whole package (shocks & tires) that made it perform better.
Here’s a question for you
If you could do it all over would you have gotten the Sasquatch package and not have the issues you’ve had?
BTW Sasquatch factory built broncos are not build with the same steering components as stock.
I see allot of stock factory broncos doing trails and allot of them are regretting not getting the package.
After you swap out shocks tires rims differential gears plus lockers if you didn’t get them you’ve paid more than the package cost

Wherever you go, there you are!

Aug 23, 2024

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Hey bro not to sound rude but your comparing factory shocks to aftermarket. I’ve been off-roading for a while now (Over 20 years). You started with a stock badlands and you do get what you pay for with ford. You swapped out tires and shocks so you could say it was the shocks that are making your Bronco perform better BUT in my opinion it’s the whole package (shocks & tires) that made it perform better.
Here’sa question for you
If you could do it all over would you have gotten the Sasquatch package any not have these issues?
I see allot of stock factory broncos doing trails and allot of them are regretting not getting the package

I am obviously comparing stock shocks to aftermarket, I though my comments made that clear..

Only 20 years? I've been off-roading since the mid 1980's. 😜

The tires, in this case, are absolutely irrelevant. I went from Toyo OpenCountry A/T III 285/75R17 - C rated (34") to Wildpeak A/T4W in 35x11.50R17 - C rated (35"). The tires are playing zero role in my comments and thoughts on the swap to the 6100's. If the tires are playing any role at all, in this case, it would be very minor and irrelevant.

I would not buy the Sasquatch package if I had to do it all over again and I am not sure what you mean by 'the issues that I've had'. My Bronco had been ROCK solid with zero issues. I was not happy with the stock Badlands shocks off-road performance. That's not an 'issue' and the swap was made simply as an upgrade / improvement focused on improved off-road capability.

As with my previous Jeeps, I want the base model that has lockers and sway disconnect which is why I bought a stripper Badlands as I want to build and equip it how I want. If I had purchased the Sasquatch, half of it would be stripped out by now anyways.
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Aug 23, 2024

#11
I am obviously comparing stock shocks to aftermarket, I though my comments made that clear..

Only 20 years? I've been off-roading since the mid 1980's. 😜

The tires, in this case, are absolutely irrelevant. I went from Toyo OpenCountry A/T III in 34" to Wildpeak A/T4W in 35". The tires are playing zero role in my comments and thoughts on the swap to the 6100's.

I would not buy the Sasquatch package if I had to do it all over again. As with my previous Jeeps, I want the base model that has lockers and sway disconnect then I want to build and equip it how I want. If I had purchased the Sasquatch, half of it would be stripped out my now.
Weren’t you the same guy complaining about your factory socks giving up on you?
If you’re a seasoned off-roader you would understand that socks wear out
Btw not all tires are built the same just like your Bronco compared to mine

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Aug 23, 2024

#12
Weren’t you the same guy complaining about your factory socks giving up on you?
If you’re a seasoned off-roader you would understand that socks wear out
Btw not all tires are built the same just like your Bronco compared to mine

Complaining? Nope.. I posted in the thread where the OP's shocks were trashed at 50K.

Not my thread but I won't hate on the OP of that thread for not knowing that's about the limit for most shocks and you shouldn't be either.

If you are an experienced 4 wheeler then you should be giving helpful advise to others and not disparaging them. Meh, it's the internet so whatever..

My Bronco has 6,000 miles on it so no the stock shocks were not giving out on me, I just thought they performed poorly off-road. Shocks do wear out but I had 6,000 miles on the stocks.. Seasoned (paprika?) or not, they were not worn out.

The Toyo's are just as good, and perform similarly, as the Wildpeaks. If you think there is a massive difference between the 2 tires that I listed then cool, rock on!

Like I said before, If the tires are playing any role at all, in this case, it would be very minor and irrelevant. The Wildpeaks are probably a little stiffer as the sidewalls on the 4w are improved and they are a tad skinnier than the Toyo's.

If you want a knock down, drag out argument then head over to the other forum and start a thread on skinny -v- wide.. 😂
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Aug 24, 2024

#13
Almost a week of on-road use with the 6100's and they are a little worse / rough riding on-road. You will feel every bump and imperfection in the roadway a bit more. Comfort most definitely takes a hit with these but I expected that.

I suppose if you want the easy'ish lift these offer but want more on-road comfort with less-off road capability then you could opt for the 5100's instead of the 6100's. The 5100's are supposedly more on-road comfort friendly.

I am going to hit a few trails next week so I'll have some more thoughts on the 6100's off-road performance.. The trails I am going to hit next week are, best I can tell, deep forest routes. There is a previously mapped tail in the area called 'axel breaker' so I'll probably also hit it..

It's rained for the past week and will continue to rain through the weekend so there should be some fun muddy spots on the trails.

My alignment came back fine and in spec with the 2 1/2 lift that I gained in the front but I am still considering some HD Old Man Emu UCA's for improved off road travel and strength.. At some point, I'll probably do the rear trailing arms as well..
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Aug 25, 2024

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Are these the same as the Ford Performance 2" Lift shocks????
  • Fits: 2021-2024 Bronco 4-Door
    • Unique shock tuning specific to 4-Door Bronco
    • Designed and optimized as an upgrade to Base, Big Bend, Black Diamond, and Outer Banks Series
    • Not validated against Sasquatch Package, Badlands, Everglades, and Raptor
    • For 2-Door specific kit, see M-18000-B1A
  • Direct bolt-in replacement suspension package, improving both ride quality and stance of vehicle
  • This proprietary kit utilizes unique shock tuning led by Ford Performance Parts engineering developed over ruthless terrain
  • Approximately 2" of lift results in optimal ground clearance and approach/departure angles
  • Kit includes bolt-in front and rear coil-over packages, utilizes both Bilstein and Ford OE components to ensure lasting Ford Performance
    • Front and rear 60mm digressive piston in a massive 2.65" mono-tube Ford Performance shock package
    • Front and Rear springs/top mount as found on factory Sasquatch package
  • Largest shock diameter of any production Bronco (excluding Raptor)
  • Comes with Ford Performance 3yr/36,000 mile warranty when installed by a Ford Dealer or ASE/Red Seal certified technician
  • Each shock features a unique "Tuned by Ford Performance" decal placed over steel damper
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raqball

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Aug 25, 2024

#15
Are these the same as the Ford Performance 2" Lift shocks????
  • Fits: 2021-2024 Bronco 4-Door
    • Unique shock tuning specific to 4-Door Bronco
    • Designed and optimized as an upgrade to Base, Big Bend, Black Diamond, and Outer Banks Series
    • Not validated against Sasquatch Package, Badlands, Everglades, and Raptor
    • For 2-Door specific kit, see M-18000-B1A
  • Direct bolt-in replacement suspension package, improving both ride quality and stance of vehicle
  • This proprietary kit utilizes unique shock tuning led by Ford Performance Parts engineering developed over ruthless terrain
  • Approximately 2" of lift results in optimal ground clearance and approach/departure angles
  • Kit includes bolt-in front and rear coil-over packages, utilizes both Bilstein and Ford OE components to ensure lasting Ford Performance
    • Front and rear 60mm digressive piston in a massive 2.65" mono-tube Ford Performance shock package
    • Front and Rear springs/top mount as found on factory Sasquatch package
  • Largest shock diameter of any production Bronco (excluding Raptor)
  • Comes with Ford Performance 3yr/36,000 mile warranty when installed by a Ford Dealer or ASE/Red Seal certified technician
  • Each shock features a unique "Tuned by Ford Performance" decal placed over steel damper
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Great question. I don't know the answer but I'd think they are not the same for a few reasons.

The 6100's use a snap ring for adjustable lift height options and these are fixed. Also, these state they are not for the Badlands or the Sasquatch where as the 6100's are for the Badlands and Sasquatch. Lastly, the 6100's do not come with new springs as you use your existing springs.

I watched a video install of them and the person ended up with something like 2 1/4" in the front and 3 1/4" in the rear.

I think that's about the same factory rake amount the Broncos come with, maybe a little less rake but not by much. If you add a winch, winch plate, ARB dual (or whatever) to the front, like I have, then good grief - holy mother of rake! That's the main reason I wanted adjustable so I could eliminate as much rake as I could.

I suppose it's possible the internals on these are the same but I also doubt that..

Edit: Here was the video I am talking about; (final measurements @ the 12:11 mark)

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Aug 27, 2024

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I have a 2022 WT and one of my shocks was leaking at the fitting between the shock body and the reservoir so I needed new tires (hate the Territory) so I decided to install Toyo Open Country M/T 35's & 6100 Coil Overs all the way around. I set the shocks up to stock height in the rear and raised the fronts by 1/2" to level the gate, I love the ride and no complaints from the wife on road noise and she drives it a lot.
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Deano Bronc, Sven

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Aug 27, 2024

#17
Nice! Your Bronco looks great!

I am hitting some more trails on Thursday but so far I am happy with the setup..

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Aug 30, 2024

#18
Update:

On-road use is getting a little better so maybe they are settling in. I'd still stay on-road comfort is slightly worse than the stock Badlands shocks.

I took the Bronco off-roading again today to further test the 6100's. I also added new upper control arms yesterday. 2 full days of off-roading with the 6100's and they have performed phenomenally. I am very happy with the 6100's and they might be the best upgrade I've done so far!

Todays trail / trip report here with a ton of photos:

https://thebronconation.com/trails-...lots-of-photos-probably-over-2-posts-t.21228/

The Wildpeaks have performed as expected, they are a great tire.. I am still not really noticing much difference between them and the Toyo's other than you can tell the sidewalls are stiffer on the Wildpeaks..

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Hey bro not to sound rude but your comparing factory shocks to aftermarket. I’ve been off-roading for a while now (Over 20 years). You started with a stock badlands and you do get what you pay for with ford. You swapped out tires and shocks so you could say it was the shocks that are making your Bronco perform better BUT in my opinion it’s the whole package (shocks & tires) that made it perform better.
Here’s a question for you
If you could do it all over would you have gotten the Sasquatch package and not have the issues you’ve had?
BTW Sasquatch factory built broncos are not build with the same steering components as stock.
I see allot of stock factory broncos doing trails and allot of them are regretting not getting the package.
After you swap out shocks tires rims differential gears plus lockers if you didn’t get them you’ve paid more than the package cost

Whilst not OP, I - as someone who has done the same to a stock Badlands - did not have the option to get a Sasquatch. If you'll recall, in the early days, FoMoCo had production issues with Sasquatch and getting them out the door. Then came the price increase with no guarantee you'd get a Sasquatch at your original "locked in reservation price" but you were guaranteed the original price if you downgraded. My current vehicle at the time (a Fusion) was dying. I had already done about $4,000 worth of repairs to its wonderful 14 year old self and was soon looking at probably another $6,000-$10,000 more in the 6 months. So, I opted to downgrade out of some options, did the math, and decided it was for me. So, yes, I would do it again. And, honestly, probably should have never chosen a Sasquatch package because like OP said, any Jeep (2) that I've had I always stripped anyway.
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