2.7 failed/update

Lance10322
Jan 11, 2022

Rank V

Jan 11, 2022

Recap: December 23rd, while stopped at a stop light (only 2,024 miles on it), the 2.7 died and would simply not restart. The Bronco ended up being towed to local Ford dealer where it discovered that the timing chain broke, the valves had destroyed the pistons and metal shaving contaminated the entire oil system.

December 30th, 7 days later, Ford Motor Co. finally authorized a rental to “temporarily” replace the Bronco. I know some say that I must be patient, after all it was Christmas on the 25th. To that I reply I know, since the Bronco was my only vehicle (I traded my truck in to get it and sold my 06 Jeep TJ) I was stranded without an automobile during the Christmas Holiday.

January 6, 2022, Ford Motor Company has not yet authorized a replacement motor (according to my local Ford Dealership’s Service Dept.). It has now been 14 days since the new Bronco lost it’s engine. I was not expecting the Bronco to be fixed by now, but I was expecting that Ford would have at least authorized an engine replacement and maybe even be in the process of shipping said replacement to the dealership. That evening, I started via the internet, to look up e-mail addresses and phone numbers to every Executive I could find within Ford Motor and I started my, “Complain Campaign”.

January 10, 2022, I went to my local Ford Dealer’s Service Department where my Bronco was towed to. (Greenwood Ford, Hollister, CA) At various times, not all at once, I spoke with several Service Writers, one Service Tech and the Service Manager. The bottom line was the dealership employees are frustrated with Ford Motor Co. They are not getting the parts, information, or answers from Ford Motor that they need to take care of my Bronco’s needs.

One on one, an individual said in confidence to me that Ford Motor is aware that there is an issue with the 2.7 engines and Engineers are most likely developing a fix to the production of new motors. That person also said they doubted Ford would send a current crate motor that could potentially have the same issue. When I inquired/pushed as to when Ford could potentially have a design fix and expect a new motor to be shipped, he said that is up to Michigan, and his best guess was four to six months.

Feeling disheartened, I left the Service Department and was walking back to the rental vehicle when I received a call from Michigan. (My Complain Campaign got someone’s attention!) Ms. Jones who works for the Ford Motor Co. Executive Offices told me that my e-mail I sent to the Board of Directors complaining about the lack of support regarding my 2021 Ford Bronco was forwarded to her and she will be looking into my case. Ms. Jones said that since she just received my information, she would follow up with me the next day (Tuesday, January 11, 2022). She also said that the number she was calling me from was her direct line and if I had any questions or concerns, to please call her. (I felt hopeful!)

January 11, 2022, near the end of the business day (5pm Michigan time), no call as of yet from Ms. Jones. I did call Ms. Jones at 3pm Michigan time and left a request for a call back, which never happened. Perhaps Ms. Jones is still looking into the situation. Perhaps she found out the same as I was told at the Dealership, four to six months.

Rant: Please correct me if the following numbers are wrong, they are what I was looking at today waiting for a call that never came: Food for thought for reservation holders and those thinking of placing a reservation. From what I can tell, Ford has shipped roughly 30k Broncos for delivery thus far. Not all of those 30k units are 2.7 engines, some are the 2.3. I’m guessing most opted for the 2.7 so let’s say 25k units of the 2.7 broncos have shipped. I know Bronco6G has a great following within the Bronco community, but not all Bronco owners probably belong to it. Bronco6G has a current list of 23 known 2.7 Bronco engines that have failed. I would guess the actual number of failed 2.7 Broncos to total above 30 units. If my numbers are somewhat in the ballpark, you have a far better chance of your 2.7 Bronco having a catastrophic failure vs wining the lotto. Good luck!
Gimesnow, Deano Bronc
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Rank VI

Jan 11, 2022

#1
Thanks again. As an Order Holder for a 2.7, I am left wondering if I should just get off this rollercoaster.

Looking forward to your next update.

Rank VI

Jan 11, 2022

#2
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Rant: Please correct me if the following numbers are wrong, they are what I was looking at today waiting for a call that never came: Food for thought for reservation holders and those thinking of placing a reservation. From what I can tell, Ford has shipped roughly 30k Broncos for delivery thus far. Not all of those 30k units are 2.7 engines, some are the 2.3. I’m guessing most opted for the 2.7 so let’s say 25k units of the 2.7 broncos have shipped. I know Bronco6G has a great following within the Bronco community, but not all Bronco owners probably belong to it. Bronco6G has a current list of 23 known 2.7 Bronco engines that have failed. I would guess the actual number of failed 2.7 Broncos to total above 30 units. If my numbers are somewhat in the ballpark, you have a far better chance of your 2.7 Bronco having a catastrophic failure vs wining the lotto. Good luck!

I just re-read your post, and if I'm getting this right, > 1:1000 have failed???? That's nuts, as in incredibly hard to believe. That's not an insignificant number and completely unacceptable. Am I mis-reading this (I must be, right)???
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Rank V

Jan 11, 2022

#3
Is this now officially a Bronsel, instead of a Bronco??
Lance10322

Rank V

Jan 11, 2022

#4
Sorry for your trouble. I am not being cute, but is the rental any fun? I ask b/c maybe try and make the best of it. If the rental is decent, take a well-planned and Looooong road trip; get some mileage out of it and make some memories while you throw miles on a car that isn't yours. Whatever time it takes to get this done can't really be changed from your end, and with that make the best of it.

Thing is, I have a Base Bronco 2dr, Squatch... Yup! 2.7. I will admit, part of me dismisses your luck as a fluke, yet another part says, "no something is off."

In the 80s, it was very hard (with even better gas) to reach 205 /285 torque from a Corvette small block. Now, those were heavy cast iron 350 blocks and smog heads (built to beat on and put away cold and wet) with fuel injection.

Jump to today... Our 2.7 is 165 CI making 325hp and 415 torque. Also, it is a graphite and alum composite block. What makes me nervous is the extreme amount of energy from such a small and lightweight package with twin turbos. I hope I didn't make a big mistake. I opted for the v6 and def would have paid up to 5 grand more for a v8

The weight is just too much (in my mind) for a 4 cylinder... Again, in my mind.

Lastly, on my rant, Damn! This damn thing eats gas... MAN! It eats gas like a wolverine around kittens! I keep filling it with 93 cause I wanna run premium and it is not cheap. I have opted out commuting with it except in emergencies.
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like you wou;dn;t be;ive.
I also really dont like how they just slam the thing off at lights
Lance10322

Rank V

Jan 12, 2022

#5
Kind of off topic. But I think relevant. When I had my 3.5 Eco F150 I believe the 2.7 F150 were having problems. So is this the same engine as in the F150?
2022 Badlands / 4dr / Sasquatch / 2.7 / Soft Top / Velocity Blue / Lux / HD Bumper / Engine Block Heater / Keypad

Rank V

Jan 12, 2022

#6
Sorry for your trouble. I am not being cute, but is the rental any fun? I ask b/c maybe try and make the best of it. If the rental is decent, take a well-planned and Looooong road trip; get some mileage out of it and make some memories while you throw miles on a car that isn't yours. Whatever time it takes to get this done can't really be changed from your end, and with that make the best of it.

The gave me a Ram 1500 2wd. It is a dog. 5.7 of gutless wonder. Trying to get the rental to swap for a Jeep. At least then I can go play in the OHV Park again.
AcesandEights

Rank XXXXXXVVVVVIIII

Jan 12, 2022

#7
Recap: December 23rd, while stopped at a stop light (only 2,024 miles on it), the 2.7 died and would simply not restart. The Bronco ended up being towed to local Ford dealer where it discovered that the timing chain broke, the valves had destroyed the pistons and metal shaving contaminated the entire oil system.

December 30th, 7 days later, Ford Motor Co. finally authorized a rental to “temporarily” replace the Bronco. I know some say that I must be patient, after all it was Christmas on the 25th. To that I reply I know, since the Bronco was my only vehicle (I traded my truck in to get it and sold my 06 Jeep TJ) I was stranded without an automobile during the Christmas Holiday.

January 6, 2022, Ford Motor Company has not yet authorized a replacement motor (according to my local Ford Dealership’s Service Dept.). It has now been 14 days since the new Bronco lost it’s engine. I was not expecting the Bronco to be fixed by now, but I was expecting that Ford would have at least authorized an engine replacement and maybe even be in the process of shipping said replacement to the dealership. That evening, I started via the internet, to look up e-mail addresses and phone numbers to every Executive I could find within Ford Motor and I started my, “Complain Campaign”.

January 10, 2022, I went to my local Ford Dealer’s Service Department where my Bronco was towed to. (Greenwood Ford, Hollister, CA) At various times, not all at once, I spoke with several Service Writers, one Service Tech and the Service Manager. The bottom line was the dealership employees are frustrated with Ford Motor Co. They are not getting the parts, information, or answers from Ford Motor that they need to take care of my Bronco’s needs.

One on one, an individual said in confidence to me that Ford Motor is aware that there is an issue with the 2.7 engines and Engineers are most likely developing a fix to the production of new motors. That person also said they doubted Ford would send a current crate motor that could potentially have the same issue. When I inquired/pushed as to when Ford could potentially have a design fix and expect a new motor to be shipped, he said that is up to Michigan, and his best guess was four to six months.

Feeling disheartened, I left the Service Department and was walking back to the rental vehicle when I received a call from Michigan. (My Complain Campaign got someone’s attention!) Ms. Jones who works for the Ford Motor Co. Executive Offices told me that my e-mail I sent to the Board of Directors complaining about the lack of support regarding my 2021 Ford Bronco was forwarded to her and she will be looking into my case. Ms. Jones said that since she just received my information, she would follow up with me the next day (Tuesday, January 11, 2022). She also said that the number she was calling me from was her direct line and if I had any questions or concerns, to please call her. (I felt hopeful!)

January 11, 2022, near the end of the business day (5pm Michigan time), no call as of yet from Ms. Jones. I did call Ms. Jones at 3pm Michigan time and left a request for a call back, which never happened. Perhaps Ms. Jones is still looking into the situation. Perhaps she found out the same as I was told at the Dealership, four to six months.

Rant: Please correct me if the following numbers are wrong, they are what I was looking at today waiting for a call that never came: Food for thought for reservation holders and those thinking of placing a reservation. From what I can tell, Ford has shipped roughly 30k Broncos for delivery thus far. Not all of those 30k units are 2.7 engines, some are the 2.3. I’m guessing most opted for the 2.7 so let’s say 25k units of the 2.7 broncos have shipped. I know Bronco6G has a great following within the Bronco community, but not all Bronco owners probably belong to it. Bronco6G has a current list of 23 known 2.7 Bronco engines that have failed. I would guess the actual number of failed 2.7 Broncos to total above 30 units. If my numbers are somewhat in the ballpark, you have a far better chance of your 2.7 Bronco having a catastrophic failure vs wining the lotto. Good luck!
let's assume your number are correct (ford built about 56,000 21 model broncos) if we assume 30000 and 30 catastrophic enginge failure that is .1% I know that sucks because it's yours but I don't think that is a high enough number for people to start panicking
LizBiz, BuckYeah
OBXBroncoGuy

Jan 12, 2022

#8
I just hope they fixed the problem and make everybody whole again
BuckYeah, Cornwelltoolman
Moderator

Defeated by Mickey’s Hot Tub

Jan 12, 2022

#9
I’m at 2,014 miles. Should I be worried? Nope!!!! If something happens, Ford will replace the engine. NBD

I averaged 18.1 mph on my 377 mile trip in my Badlands w/2.7 and Sasquatch package.

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2021 Badlands, 4 door, 2.7L, Auto, LUX, SAS, Tow Package, MIC, Velocity Blue.
BuckYeah, Cornwelltoolman
Moderator

Life is a Highway

Jan 12, 2022

#10
we have to look at all 2.7 engines, over all the models utilizing this generation of engine to see a true number comparison of engines built to total engine failures.
BuckYeah, Broncofly

Rank V

Jan 12, 2022

#11
I have a 2.7 in my base and just at about 5k miles and luckily no issues yet. Seems to be a lot of people with the issues are in the 2k range for some reason.
BuckYeah

SEA Horse

Jan 12, 2022

#12
I have a 2.7 in my base and just at about 5k miles and luckily no issues yet. Seems to be a lot of people with the issues are in the 2k range for some reason.

Seems like you're safely past the break period... er I mean break-in period. :ROFLMAO:
Chris here. I drive a 2-door Velocity Blue 2023 Ford Bronco Badlands with Sasquatch, Lux, a 2.7L V6, and an automatic transmission. It’s fun.

"Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Gimesnow, Deano Bronc

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