IS BRONCO SCHEDULING THIS WEEK? (An Explainer) + Ask me your Ford Production Questions

Gloff
Jul 15, 2021

Rank V

Jul 15, 2021

Updated 9/24/21

Yes. Build Weeks 11/1-12/06


Looks like full scheduling, which I assume to be soft tops. This is balance out, Ford will be exhausting all the commodities they can, expect stock units to schedule when they run out of buildable retail units. I imagine there will be some clean up scheduling in the coming weeks as well, so this likely won't be the last chance to get scheduled. Ford did say final orders are due 10/1/2021 though, so this is the last chance to get a soft top build in.




Feel free to use this thread to post your scheduling and production questions. I'm no expert, but I have just enough knowledge to be dangerous. If I don't know, I'll see if I can reach out to my contacts for more clarity.

I cannot tell you your odds of being scheduled. I don't have enough scheduling information for that. I can answer questions on the scheduling process, allocation process, basic info on the assembly process, and the transportation process.

This question is asked enough that I thought it important that everyone who has this question understands the cadence.


The below information is no longer accurate due to the ever-changing situation, but I'm leaving it up for those that are interested.
GENERALLY SPEAKING:

Ford schedules orders on Thursdays. This is true for all model lines. Normally Ford schedules weekly or a couple weeks at a time. With Bronco, they're doing things a little differently. Scheduling is done in three phases throughout the scheduling period which is supposed to be monthly. That has been messed up a little with the shutdowns and what have you, but is mostly correct. Phase 1 is First Editions which is one week, Phase 2 is Regular Broncos which is one week, Phase 3 is Cleanup which is multiple weeks until the next scheduling period.
P1/P2 are self explanatory.
P3 is Ford working though additional available commodities attempting to schedule unscheduled allocation to maximize the assembly line and parts available.
washope, j_4260

Rank V

Jul 16, 2021

#1
No.

Next Scheduling Period begins 7/29/2021 for September Production.

This question is asked enough that I thought it important that everyone who has this question understands the cadence.

GENERALLY SPEAKING:
Ford schedules orders on Thursdays. This is true for all model lines. Normally Ford schedules weekly or a couple weeks at a time. With Bronco, they're doing things a little differently. Scheduling is done in three phases throughout the scheduling period which is supposed to be monthly. That has been messed up a little with the shutdowns and what have you, but is mostly correct. Phase 1 is First Editions which is one week, Phase 2 is Regular Broncos which is one week, Phase 3 is Cleanup which is multiple weeks until the next scheduling period.
P1/P2 are self explanatory.
P3 is Ford working though additional available commodities attempting to schedule unscheduled allocation to maximize the assembly line and parts available.


Feel free to use this thread to post your scheduling and production questions. I'm no expert, but I have just enough knowledge to be dangerous. If I don't know, I'll see if I can reach out to my contacts for more clarity.
No.

Next Scheduling Period begins 7/29/2021 for September Production.

This question is asked enough that I thought it important that everyone who has this question understands the cadence.

GENERALLY SPEAKING:
Ford schedules orders on Thursdays. This is true for all model lines. Normally Ford schedules weekly or a couple weeks at a time. With Bronco, they're doing things a little differently. Scheduling is done in three phases throughout the scheduling period which is supposed to be monthly. That has been messed up a little with the shutdowns and what have you, but is mostly correct. Phase 1 is First Editions which is one week, Phase 2 is Regular Broncos which is one week, Phase 3 is Cleanup which is multiple weeks until the next scheduling period.
P1/P2 are self explanatory.
P3 is Ford working though additional available commodities attempting to schedule unscheduled allocation to maximize the assembly line and parts available.


Feel free to use this thread to post your scheduling and production questions. I'm no expert, but I have just enough knowledge to be dangerous. If I don't know, I'll see if I can reach out to my contacts for more clarity.
Thank you for the update! I was wondering when the next scheduling begins. Is Ford going to send out another mass email in regards to the soft top change extension tomorrow? Also, I just switched to a soft top from a MIC top yesterday hoping for a 2021. Do you think I have a shot with a late day 2 reservation (BL, 2.7l, SAS, tow, and now a soft top)? I am 26 of 28 allocated Broncos at my dealer. Thoughts? Will it make a difference or should I just go back to a MIC top?
tobjo, TK1215

Rank VI

Jul 16, 2021

#2
@Gloff thanks for this update. It’s surprising how clueless we are to this process.

I’ve got a few questions, but I’ll start with a question about the phases… does that mean each phase will be a different round of emails?

Another way to ask this, since I have a badlands ordered (Not an FE), should I not be getting my hopes up for the first round of emails on sept 29 (what I assume to be phase 1)?
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Rudy151, Big Mikel

Rank V

Jul 16, 2021

#3
Thank you for the update! I was wondering when the next scheduling begins. Is Ford going to send out another mass email in regards to the soft top change extension tomorrow? Also, I just switched to a soft top from a MIC top yesterday hoping for a 2021. Do you think I have a shot with a late day 2 reservation (BL, 2.7l, SAS, tow, and now a soft top)? I am 26 of 28 allocated Broncos at my dealer. Thoughts? Will it make a difference or should I just go back to a MIC top?

I don't know about an email, but I'll check, we just got our Bronco Specialist email regarding the extension.

If they run out of MIC tops, and there aren't any similar builds before yours (with a soft top), and still have the other commodities to build yours, it'll get scheduled. Soft top availability for September Scheduling is 44% (vs 9% of the unscheduled order bank).

This is what allows us to have some stock units for September, there is more manufacturing capacity than available soft top builds in the order bank. Ford is prioritizing retail customer orders over stock so yours will almost certainly be scheduled before a stock unit with a similar configuration (they might get a Big Bend 2.3, but not a BL SAS before yours) You're far more likely to get a soft top built than a hard top regardless of timestamp. (unless your dealer has a ton of soft top orders). Just remember, a lot of options are constrained, but there is still some capacity for those later timestamps to get some of the constrained options if they are a soft top.

Looking at the commodity restrictions for our stock orders, we can't order 2.7L, 2 Door, MIC top, and a few other options at all. Most of our stock Broncos will be Base/BB/OBX with Mid/High Packages.

@Gloff thanks for this update. It’s surprising how clueless we are to this process.

I’ve got a few questions, but I’ll start with a question about the phases… does that mean each phase will be a different round of emails?

Another way to ask this, since I have a badlands ordered (Not an FE), should I not be getting my hopes up for the first round of emails on sept 29 (what I assume to be phase 1)?

Yes, you have that right. Ford sends out the email when the order schedules. My understanding is that 7/29 is going to just be FE, but I'm not 100% on that.
Fstfrd00

Rank XII

Jul 16, 2021

#4
My dealer said ALL VINS to pull during July for late-Aug into September production will be pulled on Thursday, July 29th...
...and that Ford has deemed this multi week modification stretch as a “redressing” period (not sure of the significance or what that means).
Cooknn, Commodore

Rank V

Jul 16, 2021

#5
I don't know about an email, but I'll check, we just got our Bronco Specialist email regarding the extension.

If they run out of MIC tops, and there aren't any similar builds before yours (with a soft top), and still have the other commodities to build yours, it'll get scheduled. Soft top availability for September Scheduling is 44% (vs 9% of the unscheduled order bank).

This is what allows us to have some stock units for September, there is more manufacturing capacity than available soft top builds in the order bank. Ford is prioritizing retail customer orders over stock so yours will almost certainly be scheduled before a stock unit with a similar configuration (they might get a Big Bend 2.3, but not a BL SAS before yours) You're far more likely to get a soft top built than a hard top regardless of timestamp. (unless your dealer has a ton of soft top orders). Just remember, a lot of options are constrained, but there is still some capacity for those later timestamps to get some of the constrained options if they are a soft top.

Looking at the commodity restrictions for our stock orders, we can't order 2.7L, 2 Door, MIC top, and a few other options at all. Most of our stock Broncos will be Base/BB/OBX with Mid/High Packages.



Yes, you have that right. Ford sends out the email when the order schedules. My understanding is that 7/29 is going to just be FE, but I'm not 100% on that.
Thank you for the quick response. So you are saying there is a chance. Last thing, which I think you were saying. It was best for me to switch from the MIC to a soft top or does that not matter?
Commodore, nic

Rank V

Jul 16, 2021

#6
Thank you for the quick response. So you are saying there is a chance. Last thing, which I think you were saying. It was best for me to switch from the MIC to a soft top or does that not matter?
Soft top is the way to go if you want the best chance at jumping the line.
Commodore, WyoBronc

Rank V

Jul 16, 2021

#7
My dealer said ALL VINS to pull during July for late-Aug into September production will be pulled on Thursday, July 29th...
...and that Ford has deemed this multi week modification stretch as a “redressing” period (not sure of the significance or what that means).
I am not aware of any change to the cadence of the scheduling. Anyone deeper in Ford manufacturing is welcome to chime in and correct.
Commodore

Rank V

Jul 16, 2021

#8
Is it safe to assume that unless you're a FE only 2 doors will get a MIC top this year?
'21 AMB Basesquatch 2 Door. 2.7. 569 days from reservation to delivery
Mharris295, Commodore

Rank XII

Jul 16, 2021

#9
...Anyone deeper in Ford manufacturing is welcome to chime in and correct.
Nice try...immediate cricket chirps on that request. :)
My dealer has been spot-on; we'll know in 14 days.
Commodore

Rank V

Jul 16, 2021

#10
Is it safe to assume that unless you're a FE only 2 doors will get a MIC top this year?
No, not at all. 44% available capacity for soft top means that ~56% of Broncos scheduled in September will be MIC Hard Top. The take rate on two door is only about 28% (FWIW Production capacity in September is only 19% for two door) So there will be plenty of four door MIC tops being built, just not as many as the soft top.

Think of it this way. If Ford can build 10k Broncos:
10,000 Total
5,600 HT
4,400 ST

1900 2DR
8100 4DR

8,100(4DR)-4,400(ST) = 3,700 HT 4D (+1,900 2DR HT)

1,900(2DR) + 3,700 (HT4D) + 4,400 (ST4D) = 10,000
mluntoho, TheBoss1138

Rank V

Jul 16, 2021

#11
Nice try...immediate cricket chirps on that request. :)
My dealer has been spot-on; we'll know in a short seven days.
14 Days. It's the 15th.
swami37, Commodore

Rank V

Jul 16, 2021

#12
No, not at all. 44% available capacity for soft top means that ~56% of Broncos scheduled in September will be MIC Hard Top. The take rate on two door is only about 28% (FWIW Production capacity in September is only 19% for two door) So there will be plenty of four door MIC tops being built, just not as many as the soft top.

Think of it this way. If Ford can build 10k Broncos:
10,000 Total
5,600 HT
4,400 ST

1900 2DR
8100 4DR

8,100(4DR)-4,400(ST) = 3,700 HT 4D (+1,900 2DR HT)

1,900(2DR) + 3,700 (HT4D) + 4,400 (ST4D) = 10,000
Then did I make the wrong choice in switching to a soft top?
Commodore, Cliffhanger

Rank V

Jul 16, 2021

#13
My dealer said ALL VINS to pull during July for late-Aug into September production will be pulled on Thursday, July 29th...
...and that Ford has deemed this multi week modification stretch as a “redressing” period (not sure of the significance or what that means).
Dressing period refers to the ability to modify certain options/features of orders input based on our commitment before they schedule (usually within commodity constraints). This is typical for stock orders on certain vehicle lines, but I don't know how it applies to Bronco for retails, since I can modify those orders all I want as long as they're unscheduled.
Commodore, Deano Bronc

Rank XII

Jul 16, 2021

#14
14 Days. It's the 15th.
I get your point so I changed it, but I was sort of referring to next Thursday and being able to infer the answer based on what happens with First Editions.
Commodore

Rank V

Jul 16, 2021

#15
Then did I make the wrong choice in switching to a soft top?
Depends how deep you are in you dealer's queue. Based on what you told me, no, you're better off with the soft top for scheduling (26 of 28 is pretty deep).

The take rate at the time Ford gave us the commodity update for September was only 9% of the remaining unscheduled order bank. Ford is anticipating they'll be able to build some stock units with the soft top, which tells me that if you order a soft top, you have a very high chance of getting it built in September, especially if you avoid the high take rate items. Even still, you've got a better chance with the soft top than the hard top as there are so many hard tops in front of you, many of them have the same or similar options to you.

Basically, if there are still Sasquatch, 2.7, and any other commodities you have on your order available, but no more hard tops, you'll get picked up before any stock orders.
Commodore, jedmisten

Rank V

Jul 16, 2021

#16
I get your point so I changed it, but I was sort of referring to next Thursday and being able to infer the answer based on what happens with First Editions.
Totally, I was doing it for clarity (which is why I started this thread). FWIW, I have 6 FEs in my queue with priority code changes (02 for those that care) and none of my regular Broncos have changed. This is in addition to the two FE I had scheduled last scheduling period.
Commodore, KennyMac

Rank V

Jul 16, 2021

#17
Depends how deep you are in you dealer's queue. Based on what you told me, no, you're better off with the soft top for scheduling (26 of 28 is pretty deep).

The take rate at the time Ford gave us the commodity update for September was only 9% of the remaining unscheduled order bank. Ford is anticipating they'll be able to build some stock units with the soft top, which tells me that if you order a soft top, you have a very high chance of getting it built in September, especially if you avoid the high take rate items. Even still, you've got a better chance with the soft top than the hard top as there are so many hard tops in front of you, many of them have the same or similar options to you.

Basically, if there are still Sasquatch, 2.7, and any other commodities you have on your order available, but no more hard tops, you'll get picked up before any stock orders.
Again, thank you for your response. I really appreciate your feedback.
Commodore, Gloff

Rank V

Jul 16, 2021

#18
Depends how deep you are in you dealer's queue. Based on what you told me, no, you're better off with the soft top for scheduling (26 of 28 is pretty deep).

The take rate at the time Ford gave us the commodity update for September was only 9% of the remaining unscheduled order bank. Ford is anticipating they'll be able to build some stock units with the soft top, which tells me that if you order a soft top, you have a very high chance of getting it built in September, especially if you avoid the high take rate items. Even still, you've got a better chance with the soft top than the hard top as there are so many hard tops in front of you, many of them have the same or similar options to you.

Basically, if there are still Sasquatch, 2.7, and any other commodities you have on your order available, but no more hard tops, you'll get picked up before any stock orders.
I know that there are 16 soft tops including mine (now) out of the 28. I don’t know what those builds are.
Commodore

Rank V

Jul 16, 2021

#19
I know that there are 16 soft tops including mine (now) out of the 28. I don’t know what those builds are.
Wow, that's a really high rate. Still would stick with the ST.
Commodore, jedmisten

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