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CamoflaugeManAug 28, 2020
yes there is a difference. typically all terrain tires will produce less road noise than the "knobier" mud terrain tires due to the space between the rubber knobs for dirt and earth material to be moved by the tire. also many mud terrain tires are built with either stiffer sidewall material, more layers of the material. or even both. this will result in a much stiffer ride on the road. if you will only hit medium to heavy off road terrain occasionally and this is a big issue for you. you should err on the side of going with all terrain tires. otherwise it is recommended you have the mud tires for the extra traction, capability, and strength/endurance of the heavier tires. this also depends on the type of off road terrain you drive on. if its mostly dirt roads with only some light to a few medium sized rocks. youll handle just fine with all terrains. but the denser and bigger stuff will be handled better with the mud terrain tires.this will be my first suv with that big of tire question badlands comes with 33 all terrain tires wild track come with 35 mud tires is there a differences in ride and noise between them
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CamoflaugeManAug 28, 2020
i would agree that regular trail driving on rubicon like trails a 35 would be atleast the bare minimum for many vehicles without getting hung up every 2 ft.Depends on what you do. If you do Rubicon trail alot then 35's are kinda small. If you just out to adventer and do old roads etc. then 33's are fine."
i agree that the "mud" terrain tire they are providing from the factory is barely mud... more like a extra aggressive all terrain in my opinion. i would say that if there is not at least a 1 inch gap between the treads then its not really a MUD tireI don't think the M/T tire that Ford is saying will come with the Sasquatch package will be an actual mud terrain tire. It is a new Goodyear tire coming out with the Bronco that I suspect will be closer to the Duratrac than the MT/R tires Goodyear currently has. The term Mud Tire can be used a little loosely and has different meanings for those of use that have had actual mud tires. If it doesn't say Interco on the side or have a tractor type V-tread, its not a mud tire.
You won't go wrong with 33s. Personally, 35s are where I'm going for nothing more than I like the look and will be much happier with the purchase for the life of the vehicle.
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CamoflaugeManAug 28, 2020
you will lose some MPG with larger tires however the vast majority of that MPG can be recovered by re-gearing the differentials. my dad did that with his jeep JL because he had 37s. he had issues with highway speeds, low speed acceleration, and transmission shifting. much of the time he did'nt have his overdrive gear at all at highway speeds because his gearing was too low. then he overcompensated a few years ago by going too high. he solved the shifting issue but now he lost a lot of highway mileage because he was now at higher rpm's than stock. then he lowered his ratio a 3rd time. F***ed up his diff, his locker, etc. doing literally in the backyard tent and while the new ratio fixed the mileage, he now has it sitting in the tent waiting on new gears because the oil drained out from one of teh sensors or something blowing out of the diff and chewing up teh new gears.... i honestly dont know how he did this but yea. re-gearing helps with mpg. a quick equation will help determine the proper gear for the tire you want. you take your tire size you want and then multiply by your original stock gear ratio. then divide by your original tire size and you'll get the closest matching gear ratio needed. example from my girlfriends jeep 35X3.55/28=4.4375 round UP for performance to the nearest gear ratio and we get 4.56 ratio gears. she currently has 31s but wants 35s.For me, I love the look of the 35's, but will be getting the 33's. I don't need such a large tire, and this will decrease fuel economy. With the type of offroading I will be doing (99% more than most other SUV owner) I am confident a good all terrain tire will be perfect. My expedition has 32's and this will be fine. I likely may get an Outer Banks which comes standard with 32's and when they need to be replaced get them in 33's to match that of the Badlands. Curious to see what other tire sizes fit the rims, and I am hoping the OB has the same width as the BL rim. Ideally I would also like a half inch wider tire in addition to one inch high (again hoping they can clear). Going to see what other Bronco owners do and likely follow suit.
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SlashRacerAug 28, 2020
Shouldn’t your equation be 35x3.55/31=4.008 or 4.10?you take your tire size you want and then multiply by your original stock gear ratio. then divide by your original tire size and you'll get the closest matching gear ratio needed. example from my girlfriends jeep 35X3.55/28=4.4375 round UP for performance to the nearest gear ratio and we get 4.56 ratio gears. she currently has 31s but wants 35s.
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CamoflaugeManAug 28, 2020
no because we currently have stock gearing in the diffs. we currently have issues with shifting at highway speeds and sluggish take off which I wanted to fix for some time. should have mentioned that. but she liked the look of the 31s we got the jeep with. so we kept them. the 28 represents the stock tire size and proper torque being applied to the wheels for the transmission to shift properly, and the engine to achieve designed power and MPG. if we used the 31s currently on the jeep as the part of the equation we would still have those issues. thanks for pointing that outShouldn’t your equation be 35x3.55/31=4.008 or 4.10?
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SlashRacerAug 28, 2020
I picked up that you had 31’s on it from your post. Didn’t see in there that it originally had 28’s on it.no because we currently have stock gearing in the diffs. we currently have issues with shifting at highway speeds and sluggish take off which I wanted to fix for some time. should have mentioned that. but she liked the look of the 31s we got the jeep with. so we kept them. the 28 represents the stock tire size and proper torque being applied to the wheels for the transmission to shift properly, and the engine to achieve designed power and MPG. if we used the 31s currently on the jeep as the part of the equation we would still have those issues. thanks for pointing that out
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SlashRacerAug 31, 2020
Well said!You get 37's, wish you had the 4.7's (or higher)of the sqatch, and you wheel rocky terrain. You get rock rails and under armor (the steel kind, not lycra) and you have a mega sheet load of fun and realize that this is why you bough the bronco in the first place.
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IpeAug 31, 2020
Thank you! I've been there, gotten the tshirt, and lived it. Buy once, cry once. Its cheaper that way.Well said!
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CamoflaugeManAug 31, 2020
that depends on how they set up the suspension from the factory. if they lift it with just taller coil over springs/shocks and control arms, then yes but only slightly. this also wont change if you go down a tire size. however if they add spacers and taller bump stops then no. all you will have is more clearance in the wheel well. it would in essence be nearly identical to the badlands. as for gearing. at the very least your programming would need to change for accurate odometer/speedometer readings. if you decide that you want to stick with the smaller tires then it would be recommended to change your gearing if MPG is a big concern for you. otherwise no you don't absolutely have to. it wont affect shifting in auto transmissions and it will give you better torque when goin over obstacles. really depends on what you plan to do in the rig.Question for those more knowledgeable than me. If I get the Sasquatch package in a lower model, say Base or BB. And I really don’t like the 35’s and after they wore down I replaced them with AT 33’s wouldn’t that be the same basic set up as Badlands? Minus the interior differences and sway bar disconnect.
And follow up question, wouldn’t that give me slightly more wheel travel?
Would the gearing need to be changed?
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Cencal BroncoAug 31, 2020
Tires are a gateway drug.
You're going to get the 33's, go down a dirt road and scrape the bottom and say fawk it, I'm getting 35's
You get the 35's and dirt roads become boring so you adventure into some rockier terrain. You go down a trail and scrape on rocks. Darn it! Shoulda started with 37's!
You get 37's, wish you had the 4.7's (or higher)of the sqatch, and you wheel rocky terrain. You get rock rails and under armor (the steel kind, not lycra) and you have a mega sheet load of fun and realize that this is why you bough the bronco in the first place.
You day dream about 40's but realize 37's are a good happy place and smile with contentment as you gaze lovingly upon your totally sick Bronco, a machine that unbridles your spirit and allows you to gallop into the proverbial sunset
Long story short, unless you know for a fact you'll only mall crawl splurge on the Squatch. Its a better starting off point
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