Which Trim? Black Diamond or Outer Banks for the Two Door

Gator
Jul 28, 2020

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Jul 28, 2020

Hey y’all!

So, a little background on me- I wouldn't consider myself a TRUE outdoorsman, but I do love the outdoors. Currently, I am still on my first beater car (a 90s Honda Civic w 200k miles) and am planning on making the 2021 Bronco 2-Door my first big purchase! The goal is to have at least ~20K for the down payment by the time the car becomes available to me (aka I’m not really looking to break the bank here).

However, my issue is which trim to go with. There are just so many options but as of right now I'm stuck between the Black Diamond and the Outer Banks. Now, have I ever been off-roading? No. My family never did that growing up and my current rig isn’t really fit to do that, if you know what I mean. Yet, I feel like if I had the necessary parts to do so then I’d definitely be down to do it! It’s kind of hard to work through but my MUST haves when it comes to this car:
  1. That Sasquatch Package – I want that look but I also want put it to use, I’m not trying to be a “mall crawler” … however if I’m being completely candid I just found out the purpose of beadlock wheels the other day, so safe to say I’m an off road novice FOR SURE
  2. Rubberized Flooring: Washout Capable with Drain Plugs + Vinyl (Or leather?) Seats- I’m really trying to easily clean out the car and this seems to be the best option for it. Whether that be mud from hiking boots or sand from deserts/ beach, easy cleanup is a must for me.
  3. A Good Speaker System. Perhaps that B&O – I'm not sure how good of a system that it is, but it sounds nice and anything is better than my current one. However, I know there is a slew of decent aftermarket speaker systems available, I just want to have the most already on the car the moment I take it out of the lot. I’m dying to blast Fortunate Son out in the wild.
  4. Transmission – I'm leaning towards an Automatic as I live in LA and LA = Disgusting amounts of traffic... isn’t an auto better for off-roading anyways?
I feel as if both Trims are capable here, but it seems as if the Black Diamond is REALLY capable + it has those easy-to-wash rubber floors and seats, while the Outer Banks doesn’t. It also has the heavy-duty bash plates and rockrails, and as a novice, I feel like I’d need those. The last thing I’d want is to completely wreck the paint job/ under undercarriage. But... what the Outer Banks does have are those creature comforts which I’d want in a new, mainly used as a commuter, car. Plus, the option to get that upgraded speaker system, which I do think I want, but I could probably get a cheaper/ better one after market (right?). I’m just not trying to break the bank and I know that I’ll have to add ~3,800 at the end for that Sasquatch Package.

Ultimately, I was never really a car guy before I found out about the Bronco, but I’ve always like the look of those outdoorsy cars and I always wanted to have that ability to hit the great outdoors with ease, and I think this car is the one! I’m not too knowledgeable in this realm so any insight at all would be greatly appreciated- ya gotta start somewhere right? Thanks y'all, and I look forward to reading your responses!

Rank III

Jul 28, 2020

#1
Hey y’all!

So, a little background on me- I'm a recent college grad with a decent corporate job (honestly a blessing to have it during these times) living in LA. I wouldn't consider myself a TRUE outdoorsman, but I do love the outdoors. Currently, I am still on my first beater car (a 2002 Honda Civic w 200k miles) and am planning on making the 2021 Bronco 2-Door my first "big-boy" purchase! The goal is to have at least ~20K for the down payment by the time the car becomes available to me (aka I’m not really looking to break the bank here).

However, my issue is which trim to go with. There are just so many options but as of right now I'm stuck between the Black Diamond and the Outer Banks. Now, have I ever been off-roading? No. My family never did that growing up and my current rig isn’t really fit to do that, if you know what I mean. Yet, I feel like if I had the necessary parts to do so then I’d definitely be down to do it! It’s kind of hard to work through but my MUST haves when it comes to this car:
  1. That Sasquatch Package – I want that look but I also want put it to use, I’m not trying to be a “mall crawler” … however if I’m being completely candid I just found out the purpose of beadlock wheels the other day, so safe to say I’m an off road novice FOR SURE
  2. Rubberized Flooring: Washout Capable with Drain Plugs + Vinyl (Or leather?) Seats- I’m really trying to easily clean out the car and this seems to be the best option for it. Whether that be mud from hiking boots or sand from deserts/ beach, easy cleanup is a must for me.
  3. A Good Speaker System. Perhaps that B&O – I'm not sure how good of a system that it is, but it sounds nice and anything is better than my current one. However, I know there is a slew of decent aftermarket speaker systems available, I just want to have the most already on the car the moment I take it out of the lot. I’m dying to blast Fortunate Son out in the wild.
  4. Transmission – I'm leaning towards an Automatic as I live in LA and LA = Disgusting amounts of traffic... also don’t slam your keyboards yet but isn’t an auto better for off-roading anyways? (Don’t kill me).
I feel as if both Trims are capable here, but it seems as if the Black Diamond is REALLY capable + it has those easy-to-wash rubber floors and seats, while the Outer Banks doesn’t. It also has the heavy-duty bash plates and rockrails, and as a novice, I feel like I’d need those. The last thing I’d want is to completely wreck the paint job/ under undercarriage. But... what the Outer Banks does have are those creature comforts which I’d want in a new, mainly used as a commuter, car. Plus, the option to get that upgraded speaker system, which I do think I want, but I could probably get a cheaper/ better one after market (right?). I’m just not trying to break the bank and I know that I’ll have to add ~3,800 at the end for that Sasquatch Package.

Ultimately, I was never really a car guy before I found out about the Bronco, but I’ve always like the look of those outdoorsy cars and I always wanted to have that ability to hit the great outdoors with ease, and I think this car is the one! I also admit that I’m a n00b here, and I don’t really know what I’m doing so any insight at all would be greatly appreciated- ya gotta start somewhere right? Thanks y'all, and I look forward to reading your responses!
Go with a Bronco Sport Badlands

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Jul 28, 2020

#2
Go with a Bronco Sport Badlands
Cute. Gonna have to be a pass from me tho, chief. Thanks for the suggestion!

Rank III

Jul 29, 2020

#3
Cute. Gonna have to be a pass from me tho, chief. Thanks for the suggestion!
Lol, just messing
Gator

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Jul 29, 2020

#4
Lol, just messing
I am going with a BD. 4cyl manual. NO SASQUATCH. Will build my own. Only factory option at this point is the roof rack.

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Jul 29, 2020

#5
I am going with a BD. 4cyl manual. NO SASQUATCH. Will build my own. Only factory option at this point is the roof rack.
I’d be lying if I said I didn’t laugh at your og comment haha

But interesting, why no Sasquatch? I’d go 4cyl as well - however I wonder how much that switch would cost for the 6

Rank V

Jul 29, 2020

#6
I'd go Black diamond get the skid plates , they protect your vitals from stumps rocks and such. The sasquatch package gives you the 35s and some other cool toys where you can go ride dunes, beaches and trails and the rubberized floor is awesome.

There is nothing wrong with not being a car guy or new to offroad we all were new at some point. If you are going for cost effectiveness and are going to do some offroading. Start with the Black Diamond and the saquatch package. The bash plates and ride height allow for some mistakes. As you get more into offroading there will be a plethora of options aftermarket to build your rig the way you want as you can afford it.
Wanderer626, Gator

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Jul 29, 2020

#7
Sasquatch imo is not what I need in an off road rig. As far as a motor, the 4cyl is a great motor and with the manual transmission it will be fun. I will use a nice small lift with some pizza cutters.

Rank VI

Jul 29, 2020

#8
I'd go Black diamond get the skid plates , they protect your vitals from stumps rocks and such. The sasquatch package gives you the 35s and some other cool toys where you can go ride dunes, beaches and trails and the rubberized floor is awesome.

There is nothing wrong with not being a car guy or new to offroad we all were new at some point. If you are going for cost effectiveness and are going to do some offroading. Start with the Black Diamond and the saquatch package. The bash plates and ride height allow for some mistakes. As you get more into offroading there will be a plethora of options aftermarket to build your rig the way you want as you can afford it.
I’m down with the Black Diamond for you, as well...
RedneckBronco, moze

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Jul 29, 2020

#9
I’m down with the Black Diamond for you, as well...

I agree with RedneckBronco and Commodore: Black Diamond + Sasquatch + bash plates. I also agree that it’s totally cool that you’re just getting in to it. My 2013 Jeep was my first ever and I really love it. I got an auto too (even though manual is what people want for off-roading for the control) it’s been great, on some pretty serious trails. Also, I’m originally a SoCal guy and there’s some great stuff near you in Big Bear, Holcolm Valley and Idyllwild (for mountains and crawling) or Johnson Valley (for dessert bashing - working that Baja GOAT mode). You got stuff from easy to pretty hardcore. And plenty of clubs to learn with. You’ll have a blast.
RedneckBronco, Gator

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Jul 29, 2020

#10
Final 2 cents here, If you are new to offroading a Manual might not be the way to go as learning everything else while also learning gear shifting and clutch while going over obstacles can be frustrating and make the expierence less enjoyable at the beginning. I learned in an Old Jeep automatic then my 72 Bronco was a manual and being able to focus only on learning to shift going over rocks and such made it easy. Whereas when I was first learning and worrying about approach and how much power to give it going over a rock , and how close am I to other obstacles was nerve wracking at the begining. I am in no way saying you can't handle it, just throwing my opinion in the mix.
moze, Gator

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Jul 29, 2020

#11
I'd go Black diamond get the skid plates , they protect your vitals from stumps rocks and such. The sasquatch package gives you the 35s and some other cool toys where you can go ride dunes, beaches and trails and the rubberized floor is awesome.

There is nothing wrong with not being a car guy or new to offroad we all were new at some point. If you are going for cost effectiveness and are going to do some offroading. Start with the Black Diamond and the saquatch package. The bash plates and ride height allow for some mistakes. As you get more into offroading there will be a plethora of options aftermarket to build your rig the way you want as you can afford it.
Ah that makes perfect sense! I suppose the BD trim would give me the necessary tools to really get into offroading. Well cheers man, I appreciate the input! I'm really leaning towards that BD now, ngl.

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Jul 29, 2020

#12
Anytime, and see if you can procure a Copy of the 4 wheelers bible or the Haynes guide too at the library or amazon or ebay used if you want to go on the cheap. Lots of good info there. And remember while it can be hard there is no need to race off and buy every toy at once. Work into offroading at your pace, talk to friends and other wheeling enthusiasist and learn their opinions. Most importantly ask why they do what they do or why they have the parts they have. You will save money and have the bronco you want.

When I was building my 89 Bronco I was on a fairly strict budget so I did all this with my Bronco friends and filtered my list into This is the offroading I enjoy so I need this, I want this, This would be nice to have, and I don't need. Then I procured the parts as my budget allowed. And I was lucky enough to have friends who do Fabrication who did some work for me, and taught me how to weld and do the other parts. You may not be a car guy now but don't let that intimidate you, getting into the offroad community you will make friends who can point you in the right direction and you might even be able to learn the skills to do some of your own upgrades and become kind of a car guy.
moze, Gator

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Jul 29, 2020

#13
I agree with RedneckBronco and Commodore: Black Diamond + Sasquatch + bash plates. I also agree that it’s totally cool that you’re just getting in to it. My 2013 Jeep was my first ever and I really love it. I got an auto too (even though manual is what people want for off-roading for the control) it’s been great, on some pretty serious trails. Also, I’m originally a SoCal guy and there’s some great stuff near you in Big Bear, Holcolm Valley and Idyllwild (for mountains and crawling) or Johnson Valley (for dessert bashing - working that Baja GOAT mode). You got stuff from easy to pretty hardcore. And plenty of clubs to learn with. You’ll have a blast.
Yeah, RedneckBronco and Commodore have the right idea. But to be honest, I do want to get that auto- I'm decent with a clutch but I imagine focusing on that while a trail would be a pain in the neck. Not only that but as a commuter in LA ahhhh I dunno bout that. How much does Ford usually mark up for an auto? Oh and Holcolm Valley! I never heard of it - now I'm really interested! And you know desert running is gonna be something I gotta try especially in So Cal - however, I think Baja mode is only offered in BL, WT, and FE trims sadly :/ (correct me if I'm wrong tho).
moze

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Jul 29, 2020

#14
So Cal has a lot of great stuff even if you don't get Baja mode you will be just fine and you can learn.

As for trails You got Death Valley with quite a few ranging from easy to moderate. Barstow has some good trails whether you want to play on the sand, hit some whoops or do some light crawling. 3-4 Hours away you can be out in Vegas or Nevada with a number of great trails for a novice, Mormon Wells, Cold Creek and others,

Of Course Cali has the Rubicon as you get better, Utah has Moab, San Diego has the Dunes. Lots of great stuff for you .
moze, Gator

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Jul 29, 2020

#15
Anytime, and see if you can procure a Copy of the 4 wheelers bible or the Haynes guide too at the library or amazon or ebay used if you want to go on the cheap. Lots of good info there. And remember while it can be hard there is no need to race off and buy every toy at once. Work into offroading at your pace, talk to friends and other wheeling enthusiasist and learn their opinions. Most importantly ask why they do what they do or why they have the parts they have. You will save money and have the bronco you want.

When I was building my 89 Bronco I was on a fairly strict budget so I did all this with my Bronco friends and filtered my list into This is the offroading I enjoy so I need this, I want this, This would be nice to have, and I don't need. Then I procured the parts as my budget allowed. And I was lucky enough to have friends who do Fabrication who did some work for me, and taught me how to weld and do the other parts. You may not be a car guy now but don't let that intimidate you, getting into the offroad community you will make friends who can point you in the right direction and you might even be able to learn the skills to do some of your own upgrades and become kind of a car guy.
SEEESH!! Adding those texts to my cart as we speak brotha! And you're totally right... I think I was gunho about adding everything to this car at once when I could just go at a slower pace and add the stuff I need. I suppose what I'm looking at now is BD + Sasquatch package + Auto (idk how much more that would be) + (MAYBE Mid package). Damn y'all know your stuff!

Also saving all those destination spots you mentioned. Great start all of them! I was thinking the first think I want to do is rip Pismo beach, then head to more serious trails like DV and the like. Woo! I'm stoked!

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Jul 29, 2020

#16
Yeah, RedneckBronco and Commodore have the right idea. But to be honest, I do want to get that auto- I'm decent with a clutch but I imagine focusing on that while a trail would be a pain in the neck. Not only that but as a commuter in LA ahhhh I dunno bout that. How much does Ford usually mark up for an auto? Oh and Holcolm Valley! I never heard of it - now I'm really interested! And you know desert running is gonna be something I gotta try especially in So Cal - however, I think Baja mode is only offered in BL, WT, and FE trims sadly :/ (correct me if I'm wrong tho).

Yep, you do NOT need a manual (or Baja mode). Just have fun. It’ll be an amazing platform to build on and customize. Part of the fun of wheelin is no other vehicle will be exactly like yours.

Look at a club. Great place to learn. Off roaders love to share. Up in Hollister they run a clinic every spring for all the new Jeep, Bronco, FJ owners to learn before they go diving into the deep end during the summer. Had both my boys do it.

https://cal4wheel.org/CA4WD/Join/Cl...spx?hkey=98d289bb-6cd2-4552-a844-dc545e1bb47f
http://www.offroaders.com/4x4-trails/california-4x4-off-road-clubs-directory/
Gator, RedneckBronco

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