Tuning the 2.3L Ecoboost Engine (Pro Cal & Cobb).

ANGRY_MECHANIC
Oct 26, 2020
ANGRY_MECHANIC

Oct 26, 2020

All,

I've been wanting to start a thread dedicated to tuning the 2.3L, and maybe gain some insight from those who have had the 2.3L in other applications with a tune.

I am ordering the Bronco Base, 2-dr, 7-spd manual, w/ squatch pkg. I plan on adding some weight to it over time with different bumpers, winch, lights, rock rails, etc, and would like to add some power. I know Ford has offered 2.3L tunes in the past with the ProCal 3 & 4. They also back these tunes with the factory warranty when installed by a Ford technician. Both were under $900.

Pro Cal 4 installed on the 2.3L in a 2019-2020 Ranger, the following performance gains can be expected:

+45HP @ 4,500RPM & +60TQ @ 2,500RPM on 91 octane fuel.
Max Engine output on 91 Octane: 315HP & 370TQ.


https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-9603-REB
Pro Cal 3 installed on the 2.3L in a 2015-2017 Mustang (rated @ 310HP/320TQ), the following can be expected:

+25HP @ 5500RPM & +70TQ @ 2200RPM / +40HP & +60TQ @ 2500-5000RPM / +75HP & 64TQ @ 5500-6800RPM / +100HP Max gain achieved @ 6000RPM on 91 octane.
Max Engine output on 91 Octane: 410HP & 390TQ.


https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-9603-M4
Another option would be the Cobb Accessport. I ran a Cobb AP - Stage 1 - on my 2014 WRX and loved it. They have confirmed that they'll also be tuning the 2021 Bronco...

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On the 2.3L 2015-2020 Mustang with High Performance Pacakge (HPP), Cobb is getting the following with their tunes. Keep in mind that the 2.3L Ecoboost Mustang HPP creates 332HP & 350 lb-ft of TQ at the crank from the factory. The following numbers are what Cobb claims at the wheels:

Stage 1 - Tune & Intake - $800:

Max Gains: +44HP & +47TQ on 91 Octane / +73HP & +73TQ on 93 Octane.
Max Engine output on 91 Octane: 376HP & 397TQ / 93 Octane: 405HP & 423TQ.


Stage 2 - Larger intercooler, tune, and intake - $1,595:

Max Gains: +58HP & +61TQ on 91 Octane / +87HP & 92TQ on 93 Octane.
Max Engine output on 91 Octane: 390HP & 411TQ / 93 Octane: 419HP & 442TQ.


Stage 3 - 3" exhaust with catted downpipe, larger intercooler, tune, and intake - $2,690:

Max Gains: +84HP & 89TQ on 91 Octane / +88HP & 93TQ on 93 Octane.
Max Engine output on 91 Octane: 416HP & 439TQ / 93 Octane: 420HP & 443TQ.


All charts and data cited above are available here:

https://cobbtuning.atlassian.net/wi...ngEcoBoostHighPerformancePackage2020-Stage1.1
I know that Car & Driver stated the following about the 7-spd transmission:

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So 406TQ is the standard limit but it can go up to 590TQ... I wonder what the Bronco will be rated for???

Needless to say, I'm pretty excited about what tunes will be available for the upcoming 2.3L Bronco. I think the lighter weight 2-dr, with the 4.7 rear end will scoot around town as is. Yet a nice tune will be welcome! I'm attracted to the Ford tunes since they still carry a warranty, but Cobb is always good too. We shall see.

Let me know your thoughts!
the poacher, Giggles

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Oct 27, 2020

#20
it will affect the warranty. the tune may be covered by ford but the aftermarket parts are not part of their calculations for durability on the other factory parts when you add beyond what they offer from either factory or Ford accessories from their parts department


Keep in mind - they need to be able to prove that what you've done (modifications) either directly or indirectly caused a failure. For example, if you have your engine tuned and your water pump bearing fails - that would be really hard for them to decline a warranty claim. However, if you're tuned on E85 and running Meth injection and Nitrous, and end up blowing up a transmission - they could say the failure was related to all the extra power you're now making.
I had an intercooler, upgraded waste gate actuator, intake/exhaust - and had an engine failure (head gasket failure between cylinders 2 and 3 - not an uncommon issue on the 2.3 eco) - They covered a new replacement engine - and that was under the extended warranty (3.5 yrs old with 62k miles) - it just cost me the $100 deductible
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Oct 27, 2020

#21
  • Tire size configurable up to 265/70/17

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Oct 27, 2020

#22
I think I've heard that PA is tough on emissions and things. I know that there are some tuners out there though that should be familiar with the 2.3L. Or you could reference Calgecko's post above about his tuner that can do some data logging and things to customize a tune for you, even if you aren't near there. One thing I haven't brought up yet here in this thread is that the new Bronco will have over-the-air (OTA) updates. That may or may not make things that much more difficult for tuners since they need to unlock the ECU in order to update the maps. Have to wait and see. Maybe some other Fords are like that too and have already been figured out? I'm betting the Raptor and maybe the new stangs are that way too?

Worst case, you could always do a canned tune. They're not the best, but plenty of people do run them as well. The numbers I referenced above are canned tunes from COBB and Ford. I'd trust the Ford ones much more. I ran the Cobb ones on a WRX and had zero issues but I was at 17ft above sea level in Jacksonville, FL and Miami when I did that. So running the 93 there didn't concern me too much. Hope this helps!
Regulations differ county to county. The county i live in does not have emissions inspections. (inspections are only $17 yay!) As long as it looks like you have a cat on your pipe, your good to go. (most people gut their cats, run a pipe through it, and weld the pipe and shell back on.

I dont want to screw up my warranty, so Ford will have to install the parts and do the tune. Hence why i've only been looking at the Ford Performance and Roush packages. Or at least, waiting for them. I assume the ranger kit would be plug and play with the Bronco, except maybe for the ECU.
ANGRY_MECHANIC

Mud,Sweat and Gears

Oct 27, 2020

#23
"the new Bronco will have over-the-air (OTA) updates. "

Sort of like updating a video game, maybe if you go to a Round Up and complete a course, your tune will level up or unlock new weapons?
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ANGRY_MECHANIC

Oct 27, 2020

#24
Product Link:
2019-2020 RANGER ECOBOOST POWER PACK PERFORMANCE CALIBRATION (Retail $825)

Description:


Ford Performance calibration for 2019-2020 Ranger EcoBoost. The Ford Performance engineered performance calibration is a 50 state legal calibration for your 2019-2020 Ford Ranger that increases power and improves drive-ability throughout the rpm range.

  • 50 state legal - C.A.R.B. EO#: D-752-12
  • Ford Performance engineered and dyno tested
  • Improved drive-ability and throttle response throughout RPM range
  • Optimized shift schedule
  • Horsepower gain: 45 HP @ 4,500 RPM
  • Torque gain: 60 lb/ft @ 2,500 RPM
  • For U.S. and Canadian vehicles
  • Comes with Ford Performance 3yr/36k mile warranty from new vehicle in-service when installed by a Ford dealer or ASE/Red Seal certified technician
  • Tire size configurable up to 265/70/17
  • Premium fuel only
  • Includes Ford Performance Pro Cal 4 calibration delivery tool M-12655-F
  • Includes Ford Performance high-flow K&N® air filter
This is what I would do, it gives you a nice torque increase down low where you want it.
I liked this one as well!
GaryB2220, Bronco V-8
ANGRY_MECHANIC

Oct 28, 2020

#25
Keep in mind - they need to be able to prove that what you've done (modifications) either directly or indirectly caused a failure. For example, if you have your engine tuned and your water pump bearing fails - that would be really hard for them to decline a warranty claim. However, if you're tuned on E85 and running Meth injection and Nitrous, and end up blowing up a transmission - they could say the failure was related to all the extra power you're now making.
I had an intercooler, upgraded waste gate actuator, intake/exhaust - and had an engine failure (head gasket failure between cylinders 2 and 3 - not an uncommon issue on the 2.3 eco) - They covered a new replacement engine - and that was under the extended warranty (3.5 yrs old with 62k miles) - it just cost me the $100 deductible
That’s really good! I’ve always heard that they have to prove the mod was the cause but never knew anyone that had to deal with a claim.
ANGRY_MECHANIC

Oct 28, 2020

#26
Ha
Regulations differ county to county. The county i live in does not have emissions inspections. (inspections are only $17 yay!) As long as it looks like you have a cat on your pipe, your good to go. (most people gut their cats, run a pipe through it, and weld the pipe and shell back on.

I dont want to screw up my warranty, so Ford will have to install the parts and do the tune. Hence why i've only been looking at the Ford Performance and Roush packages. Or at least, waiting for them. I assume the ranger kit would be plug and play with the Bronco, except maybe for the ECU.
Hard to say, but the engine has been tuned before so I’m sure it’s only a matter of time!

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Jul 11, 2021

#27
But no one knows how to crack the code on the new modules being used... ie.. 2021 f150... etc...
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Speed Devil

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Jul 14, 2021

#28
But no one knows how to crack the code on the new modules being used... ie.. 2021 f150... etc...

Yet, they don't know to do it yet.

They will, how many undefeatable modules and ecu's have they made in the past that have been cracked?
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Jul 14, 2021

#29
Yet, they don't know to do it yet.

They will, how many undefeatable modules and ecu's have they made in the past that have been cracked?
Well I get that someone will, sometime and some day, but until the corvette, tuners had tunes within like 1 month of deliveries... how many 2021 f150 have been tuned ???? It could be a year or so.. who knows. I hope im.wrong!!
I dont need the extra power, I need the dbw and the sluggish shift points refined.
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Mud,Sweat and Gears

Jul 14, 2021

#30
Well I get that someone will, sometime and some day, but until the corvette, tuners had tunes within like 1 month of deliveries... how many 2021 f150 have been tuned ???? It could be a year or so.. who knows. I hope im.wrong!!
I dont need the extra power, I need the dbw and the sluggish shift points refined.
I need more power in the 0-3000 range.There is a tune for the ranger that does that, just have to see if it works with the Bronco.
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Deano Bronc, Speed Devil

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Jul 14, 2021

#31
I need more power in the 0-3000 range.There is a tune for the ranger that does that, just have to see if it works with the Bronco.

Also several products can reduce the lag a bit as well.
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Mud,Sweat and Gears

Jul 14, 2021

#32
Also several products can reduce the lag a bit as well.
7.3 no waiting :ROFLMAO:

They have cams for the 2.3 going to have think about that. My Bronco is going to be a weekend toy until my Focus returns to the ground.
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Speed Devil

Rank IV

Dec 18, 2021

#33
All,

I've been wanting to start a thread dedicated to tuning the 2.3L, and maybe gain some insight from those who have had the 2.3L in other applications with a tune.

I am ordering the Bronco Base, 2-dr, 7-spd manual, w/ squatch pkg. I plan on adding some weight to it over time with different bumpers, winch, lights, rock rails, etc, and would like to add some power. I know Ford has offered 2.3L tunes in the past with the ProCal 3 & 4. They also back these tunes with the factory warranty when installed by a Ford technician. Both were under $900.

Pro Cal 4 installed on the 2.3L in a 2019-2020 Ranger, the following performance gains can be expected:

+45HP @ 4,500RPM & +60TQ @ 2,500RPM on 91 octane fuel.
Max Engine output on 91 Octane: 315HP & 370TQ.


https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-9603-REB
Pro Cal 3 installed on the 2.3L in a 2015-2017 Mustang (rated @ 310HP/320TQ), the following can be expected:

+25HP @ 5500RPM & +70TQ @ 2200RPM / +40HP & +60TQ @ 2500-5000RPM / +75HP & 64TQ @ 5500-6800RPM / +100HP Max gain achieved @ 6000RPM on 91 octane.
Max Engine output on 91 Octane: 410HP & 390TQ.


https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-9603-M4
Another option would be the Cobb Accessport. I ran a Cobb AP - Stage 1 - on my 2014 WRX and loved it. They have confirmed that they'll also be tuning the 2021 Bronco...

View attachment 5111

On the 2.3L 2015-2020 Mustang with High Performance Pacakge (HPP), Cobb is getting the following with their tunes. Keep in mind that the 2.3L Ecoboost Mustang HPP creates 332HP & 350 lb-ft of TQ at the crank from the factory. The following numbers are what Cobb claims at the wheels:

Stage 1 - Tune & Intake - $800:

Max Gains: +44HP & +47TQ on 91 Octane / +73HP & +73TQ on 93 Octane.
Max Engine output on 91 Octane: 376HP & 397TQ / 93 Octane: 405HP & 423TQ.


Stage 2 - Larger intercooler, tune, and intake - $1,595:

Max Gains: +58HP & +61TQ on 91 Octane / +87HP & 92TQ on 93 Octane.
Max Engine output on 91 Octane: 390HP & 411TQ / 93 Octane: 419HP & 442TQ.


Stage 3 - 3" exhaust with catted downpipe, larger intercooler, tune, and intake - $2,690:

Max Gains: +84HP & 89TQ on 91 Octane / +88HP & 93TQ on 93 Octane.
Max Engine output on 91 Octane: 416HP & 439TQ / 93 Octane: 420HP & 443TQ.


All charts and data cited above are available here:

https://cobbtuning.atlassian.net/wi...ngEcoBoostHighPerformancePackage2020-Stage1.1
I know that Car & Driver stated the following about the 7-spd transmission:

View attachment 5112

So 406TQ is the standard limit but it can go up to 590TQ... I wonder what the Bronco will be rated for???

Needless to say, I'm pretty excited about what tunes will be available for the upcoming 2.3L Bronco. I think the lighter weight 2-dr, with the 4.7 rear end will scoot around town as is. Yet a nice tune will be welcome! I'm attracted to the Ford tunes since they still carry a warranty, but Cobb is always good too. We shall see.

Let me know your thoughts!

https://www.pandamotorworks.com/products/panda-power-module-ford-bronco

Rank II

Dec 10, 2023

#34
Who has installed the Ford Kit for $825? Worth the money?
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