Frameless doors

GaryB2220

Oct 14, 2020

Didn't know/realize until meduros prototype tour that the bronco has frameless doors. This was to keep the door unyieldly and lighter so they can be easily removed and stored in the back. And it appears the window will just be resting against the roof seal instead of going inside a track. I'm worried how this will keep out leaks, the weather, and the noise overtime. All it takes is one window licker of a child to rest their head against the window, and reversing the pressure away from the seal. Letting in the rain, or the loud whistle of a cracked window when driving down the highway. I would love to see the window test results.

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Oct 14, 2020

GaryB2220
Didn't know/realize until meduros prototype tour that the bronco has frameless doors. This was to keep the door unyieldly and lighter so they can be easily removed and stored in the back. And it appears the window will just be resting against the roof seal instead of going inside a track. I'm worried how this will keep out leaks, the weather, and the noise overtime. All it takes is one window licker of a child to rest their head against the window, and reversing the pressure away from the seal. Letting in the rain, or the loud whistle of a cracked window when driving down the highway. I would love to see the window test results.

Check out this video on environment testing for military aircraft and vehicles at this facility in Florida. Ford Motor Company also uses this place to test their vehicles, as mentioned briefly in the video. You can even see some Ford vehicles in there as well at 3:12. Maybe that can help ease your concerns somewhat.

David, tlowell01

Oct 14, 2020

Do Mustangs leak? This isn't a first by any stretch of the imagination. I wouldn't worry at all.

Rgwinn, Rydfree

Oct 14, 2020

The engineering isnt 20 years old. New processes are in place. This is not something I am remotely concerned about. (but you can be!)

L.R.

tlowell01, frinesi2

Oct 14, 2020

I don't have a mustang or a vehicle (with windows) 20 years or younger. Frameless doors are not uncommon? Anyone have any issues with them before? Any issues before/after 50k, 100k, etc miles?

tlowell01

Oct 15, 2020

GaryB2220
I don't have a mustang or a vehicle (with windows) 20 years or younger. Frameless doors are not uncommon? Anyone have any issues with them before? Any issues before/after 50k, 100k, etc miles?

Almost every single convertible is a frameless door, as was said Mustangs have been frameless since maybe the Fox Body (ended 1993)? There are no real issues. Could something come up at 100k, absolutely that is years of UV, temp changes, etc.. of course weatherstripping could need replaced but it is hardly an issue worth considering. If anything, I'd have more curiosity about the seams of the modular top.

tlowell01, GaryB2220

Oct 15, 2020

My daily driver is a 50 year old car (67 Camaro) with frameless windows. Been in some serious rain and never had an issue with leaks. The rubber around the windows is pretty old and build tolerances back then are nowhere near what they are now. So I wouldn't worry about having any issues with the Bronco. And if you do, that is why they have marine grade vinyl. ha

GaryB2220, tlowell01

Oct 15, 2020

I drove a '97 Mustang GT for 16 years, and it had frameless doors. I never had issues with leaking, excessive road noise, etc. I lived in Oklahoma, Oregon, California, and Arizona with that car so it got a pretty good variety of different climate types and never had any issues at all. Not even degraded weather stripping. The only time water got in the car is when I left the windows cracked on a hot AZ day and forgot about it when a monsoon rolled in.

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Rgwinn, Deano Bronc

Oct 15, 2020

GaryB2220
I'm worried how this will keep out leaks, the weather, and the noise overtime.

Seems like most vehicle makes have their quirks that cause problems without care. Hope this isn't one of them because it does seem like this is a solved problem in other vehicles.

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Deano Bronc

Oct 15, 2020

Thanks everyone. Convertibles had never crossed my mind. For whatever reason, I thought this was a new concept.

Deano Bronc, Rgwinn

Oct 15, 2020

#10

umm, ya, not the first vehicle to use frameless doors.

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Deano Bronc

Oct 16, 2020

#11

Modern advances have made the whole idea of a "Frameless Door" even better than the old days as it were. I would have to agree that it should pose no problem.

A friend owns a Dodge Challenger which also has the aforementioned doors and the modern twist to them is that the windows open/close automatically about a 1/4" ensuring a good window/door seal. I'm sure some type of system could be easily employed if need be and may already be in place but not having seen a Bronco in action I can't say as to whether or not they do this. Regardless, it's a moot point as the doors won't be on my ride for 4-5 months at a whack anyhow ...

Oct 16, 2020

#12

jpesaturo
Modern advances have made the whole idea of a "Frameless Door" even better than the old days as it were. I would have to agree that it should pose no problem.

A friend owns a Dodge Challenger which also has the aforementioned doors and the modern twist to them is that the windows open/close automatically about a 1/4" ensuring a good window/door seal. I'm sure some type of system could be easily employed if need be and may already be in place but not having seen a Bronco in action I can't say as to whether or not they do this. Regardless, it's a moot point as the doors won't be on my ride for 4-5 months at a whack anyhow ...

My old Mustang used to so the same thing so maybe the Bronco will do it also.

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Oct 16, 2020

#13

If you're concerned about rubber gaskets sealing long term, baby oil is your friend...

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