The NTF guys are making more progress

Would be nice, but for as much as I want a V8, I'm not about to be spending $45k on up for an engine swap. Are these the same guys that were posted over on B6G? (Didn't get a chance yet to actually watch this video).

EvlNvrDys

Would be nice, but for as much as I want a V8, I'm not about to be spending $45k on up for an engine swap. Are these the same guys that were posted over on B6G? (Didn't get a chance yet to actually watch this video).

It doesn't cost 45k for a swap.

I just hope they got a Tremec solution, be the ultimate win/win

Foxtrot Bravo

It doesn't cost 45k for a swap.

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/thre...onversion-in-bronco-raptor-underway-🦖.101496/

The guy having it done now says the company has been doing V8 swaps into F-150 Raptors, starting at $45k. So yeah, once you handle the engine, trans, electronics, I can see it being that high. Unless you know of some magic that no one else has been able to figure out yet.

This forum software sucks It deleted my last post it sucks almost as much as moredoor
It doesn't cost 45k if you do it yourself.

I've not been following, What engine are they trying to install in the Bronco?
5.0 or Coyote or 7.3?

Mikes2021Bronco

I've not been following, What engine are they trying to install in the Bronco?
5.0 or Coyote or 7.3?

The guys mentioned above are doing a 7.3, the NTF guys are doing a Coyote.
I'm doing something else.

So the guys doing a Coyote are not doing an engine swap. They are having to rebuild the whole front of the Bronco. I have found... there is a huge difference between an " engine swap" and a "chop, cut, rebuild"

Mikes2021Bronco

So the guys doing a Coyote are not doing an engine swap. They are having to rebuild the whole front of the Bronco. I have found... there is a huge difference between an " engine swap" and a "chop, cut, rebuild"

That's why I'm not doing a Coyote , I did my homework on this before deciding on engine

I'm glad I'm happy with 300 HP and a manual transmission. I just don't see where a Bronco needs or really can handle 400 - 500 HP. Too gangly for the street and too powerful for trail driving in most places, especially the east coast.

Eninty

I'm glad I'm happy with 300 HP and a manual transmission. I just don't see where a Bronco needs or really can handle 400 - 500 HP. Too gangly for the street and too powerful for trail driving in most places, especially the east coast.

Relaxed bottom end torque that the hair dryer motors don't have.
Have to remember it's not a 3000 lb CJ, it's 4500 lb slug.and we want power to spare with out resorting to turbos.
If they had a NA version probably wouldn't be having this discussion.

Foxtrot Bravo

Relaxed bottom end torque that the hair dryer motors don't have.
Have to remember it's not a 3000 lb CJ, it's 4500 lb slug.and we want power to spare with out resorting to turbos.
If they had a NA version probably wouldn't be having this discussion.

This chart I pulled from another Bronco site seems to indicate the 2.7 EcoBoost has more HP and Torque from 2100 to 3500 RPM than the Coyote. And both engines torque curves overlap from 500 RPM to 2100 (the relaxed part of the rev band).

The 2.3L EcoBoost has a decent flat torque curve from 3000 to 5000 RPM.

Torque from idle to 3000 is what is needed. It's too easy to cheat Dyno numbers I have a decade of experience with dynos.They went from a development tool to an advertising fool.I don't trust the numbers you show there.

Eninty

I'm glad I'm happy with 300 HP and a manual transmission. I just don't see where a Bronco needs or really can handle 400 - 500 HP. Too gangly for the street and too powerful for trail driving in most places, especially the east coast.

It’s not all about the power, even though they could use more. Its about reliability and having a relaxed motor when you’re cruising, plus the delivery and sound.

On the power front though, a V8 generally starts where a boosted 4 is ending, and thats before you boost the 8. My truck is 2 & 1/2 tons, 500-800whp would be solid

Foxtrot Bravo

The guys mentioned above are doing a 7.3, the NTF guys are doing a Coyote.
I'm doing something else.

4BT swap. LOL

Jakob1972

4BT swap. LOL

Nope.

Speed Devil

It’s not all about the power, even though they could use more. Its about reliability and having a relaxed motor when you’re cruising, plus the delivery and sound.

On the power front though, a V8 generally starts where a boosted 4 is ending, and thats before you boost the 8. My truck is 2 & 1/2 tons, 500-800whp would be solid

So wait, your issue is with reliability of a turbo 4 cylinder as a replacement for what traditionally was a V8. Then go on to say the V8 is even better when it is modified with a compressor to convert it to forced induction? So, afyermarket forced induction on an engine not engineered for forced induction doesnt knock down the V8's reliability? Your argument is pretty stupid.

The EcoBoost engines are engineered from the outset to be turbocharged, from the internals, to the block, to the engine management computer. For whatever reduced reliability you think the EcoBoost engines have, you are proposing a $40K hack jop swap to up level the reliability of the powerplant. Funny.

If I had a concern, I'd just buy an aftermarket extended warranty for $5,000 that covers the engine for 250,000 miles. If one can tolerate an automatic transmission in the Bronco, the 2.7L EcoBoost makes slightly more power than the Coyote does for the same "relaxed" RPM range of the powerband. And gets better fuel consumption to boot. The 2.7L has a 60-degree block, so its harmonics are balanced if just slightly less than a 90-degree V8, so I'm not sure about your "relaxed" argument either.

The 2.3L EcoBoost with the manual turns at 2,000 RPM at 60 MPH. The Bronco at 60 MPH makes so much wind noise and has high levels of ambient cabin noise, it's not like you hear it anyway while cruising.

You keep saying more power than the coyote but it doesn't, coyote has more hp than the 2.7.

330hp and 400 lb ft torque for the hair dryer vs 480 hp and 418 left torque for the coyote.

A supercharger offers better throttle response and has better adiabatic efficiency especially in the case of one that has internal compression such as a Sprintex.. You have to compare apples to apples, the V8 would have to have forced induction.

Foxtrot Bravo

You keep saying more power than the coyote but it doesn't, coyote has more hp than the 2.7.

330hp and 400 lb ft torque for the hair dryer vs 480 hp and 418 left torque for the coyote.

A supercharger offers better throttle response and has better adiabatic efficiency especially in the case of one that has internal compression such as a Sprintex.. You have to compare apples to apples, the V8 would have to have forced induction.

The graph I posted earlier was not clear on which 5.0L V8. I thought the "adj50" was referencing the Coyote, but rather it is the Ford 5.0L Ti-VTC. Apologies for the error. However, if Ford were to offer the Bronco with a V8 from the factory, it most likely would be the standard fare 5.0L Ti-VTC F150 truck engine. That engine offeres power levels on par with the 2.7L EcoBoost, which has been my point of discussion, that the 2.7L EcoBoost is a good substitution for the standard 5.0L V8 because it makes slightly more power over the same "relaxed" RPM range.