2 in lift issues

green2doorbadlands

I am having alignment issues with my 2022 badlands
I had a 2 inch lift kit installed , the adjustments are maxed out, I have had the alignment done 3 times , it is not out again. my steering wheel is no longer straight .
Anyone come across this issue
I am considering just getting it taken out , i has already cost me 2 tires and I don't get the new ones until the issue is fixed

There are several ways to get a 2” lift and some methods are SIGNIFICANTLY better than others with respect to drivability, suspension & geometry. Aside from proper installation methods, wheel & tire combo is also critical when installing a lift.

Have you changed the stock wheels/tires? What type of lift was installed? And specifically what parts were used?
(And, I suspect that you did a spacer lift)

green2doorbadlands

I am having alignment issues with my 2022 badlands
I had a 2 inch lift kit installed , the adjustments are maxed out, I have had the alignment done 3 times , it is not out again. my steering wheel is no longer straight .
Anyone come across this issue
I am considering just getting it taken out , i has already cost me 2 tires and I don't get the new ones until the issue is fixed

Did you also install an aftermarket upper control arms? I believe I read that is only way to get the alignment back into specs. Once you go over 1" to 1.5" over stock, there isn't enough adjustment in the stock setup to align properly.

Deano Bronc

Did you also install an aftermarket upper control arms? I believe I read that is only way to get the alignment back into specs. Once you go over 1" to 1.5" over stock, there isn't enough adjustment in the stock setup to align properly.

I did an Eibach 2” spring lift and still use the stock upper control arms just fine. I’m not having any alignment issues.

I plan on doing it correctly with new UCAs and a spring lift. King or something like that. I have had spacers on my Tundra and it just makes it harsh. Spacer is not a lift IMO. Spring perch just takes way travel from what I can see. I could be 100% wrong. There is no shortcut to good suspension.

Deano Bronc

Did you also install an aftermarket upper control arms? I believe I read that is only way to get the alignment back into specs. Once you go over 1" to 1.5" over stock, there isn't enough adjustment in the stock setup to align properly.

I did not , Didnt know that was a thing I am looking into it for sure

Bschurr

There are several ways to get a 2” lift and some methods are SIGNIFICANTLY better than others with respect to drivability, suspension & geometry. Aside from proper installation methods, wheel & tire combo is also critical when installing a lift.

Have you changed the stock wheels/tires? What type of lift was installed? And specifically what parts were used?
(And, I suspect that you did a spacer lift)

stock badlands tire 33
ford lift kit
yes spacer lift
going to try new upper control arms

Is this what they call "throwing good money after bad"?

Something seems to be missing from this thread. And believe me I'm no expert on IFS, nor do I even like it. But I digress.

1. I am under the impression you typically need to worry about new upper control arm when you go OVER 2" of lift. I've seen many people state even closer to 3" of lift.

2. You've done the Ford 2" lift, and are still running the stock 33" tires and wheels. Is it safe to say you're eiter toed in or out and it's wearing that side of the tire on you?

3. We put a 2" level lift (pucks) on a 2021 Bronco. Ford had no issues aligning it.

4. Crooked steering wheel usually fixed by guys who do the alignment, had that done to my Mustang years ago.

So the one question I have is, WHO installed the lift for you? And did they do it right?

MIGeezer

Is this what they call "throwing good money after bad"?

Kinda, I would say it is just throwing more money at it. It is not a Bad lift just not done completely, possibly. Whoever installed the lift should have known to offer upgraded UCAs to help fix any alignment issues. but as @TechnicalDisaster stated you can do a 2" lift and use factory UCA and have no issues. It might depend on the set up TD has sas or nonsas Badlands. OP has a nonsas Badlands.

Jakob1972

Kinda, I would say it is just throwing more money at it. It is not a Bad lift just not done completely, possibly. Whoever installed the lift should have known to offer upgraded UCAs to help fix any alignment issues. but as @TechnicalDisaster stated you can do a 2" lift and use factory UCA and have no issues. It might depend on the set up TD has sas or nonsas Badlands. OP has a nonsas Badlands.

I have a SAS Badlands. I put the Eibach 2” lift springs over the factory Bilsteins. No problem with alignment.

I just went to 37” tires, and I’m waiting to see how it all handles on the trail before considering new UCAs. I want to experience and encounter a need first hand before I run out and buy a bunch of upgrades without fully understanding what they do and how they affect my driving. In other words, I don’t want to buy a solution looking for a problem.

green2doorbadlands

I did not , Didnt know that was a thing I am looking into it for sure

I talked with Accutune at length about my upper control arms. They offer several but they talked me into a set that (while expensive) were considerably less money than some of the other options they offered only because they had the best most consistent results in getting the tires back to original spec alignment. Although I have a very good alignment shop that regularly does alignments on oversized tired rigs and they set my caster a touch beyond factory specs to make recentering dramatically easier than it would have been.... Great alignment on a 2-1/2 inch lift.

Icon tubular upper control arm. Highly recommend it.

EvlNvrDys

Something seems to be missing from this thread. And believe me I'm no expert on IFS, nor do I even like it. But I digress.

1. I am under the impression you typically need to worry about new upper control arm when you go OVER 2" of lift. I've seen many people state even closer to 3" of lift.

2. You've done the Ford 2" lift, and are still running the stock 33" tires and wheels. Is it safe to say you're eiter toed in or out and it's wearing that side of the tire on you?

3. We put a 2" level lift (pucks) on a 2021 Bronco. Ford had no issues aligning it.

4. Crooked steering wheel usually fixed by guys who do the alignment, had that done to my Mustang years ago.

So the one question I have is, WHO installed the lift for you? And did they do it right?

I would add to that ... A good alignment shop that knows what they are doing with lifted vehicles is worth its weight in gold. Too many guys are just technicians that look to match numbers on a print out without really "KNOWING" what it all means.

TechnicalDisaster

I did an Eibach 2” spring lift and still use the stock upper control arms just fine. I’m not having any alignment issues.

EvlNvrDys

Something seems to be missing from this thread. And believe me I'm no expert on IFS, nor do I even like it. But I digress.

1. I am under the impression you typically need to worry about new upper control arm when you go OVER 2" of lift. I've seen many people state even closer to 3" of lift.

2. You've done the Ford 2" lift, and are still running the stock 33" tires and wheels. Is it safe to say you're eiter toed in or out and it's wearing that side of the tire on you?

3. We put a 2" level lift (pucks) on a 2021 Bronco. Ford had no issues aligning it.

4. Crooked steering wheel usually fixed by guys who do the alignment, had that done to my Mustang years ago.

So the one question I have is, WHO installed the lift for you? And did they do it right?

Yes, I believe you guys are correct. Did a little searching again and it seems that around the 2" level is where some have issues and some do not. It's possible that he doesn't have enough adjustment range to get their Bronco within specs.
It's also possible the guy doing the alignment is not doing it correctly.
If it were out of range of adjustment, it would seem that the alignment guy would say so. I wouldn't buy new upper control arms unless he specifically said that they had hit the limit and couldn't get it in specs.

Ben221

I plan on doing it correctly with new UCAs and a spring lift. King or something like that. I have had spacers on my Tundra and it just makes it harsh. Spacer is not a lift IMO. Spring perch just takes way travel from what I can see. I could be 100% wrong. There is no shortcut to good suspension.

The shortcut to a good suspension is called “Sasquatch”. It covers everything with a warranty. At least with stock tire sizes.

I’ve read hundreds of threads on lift techniques , steering, and CV considerations.
Seems like most everyone is an expert but there are few that agree.

Welcome to the proverbial
“can of 🪱 worms”.

Who is doing the alignment? There is no reason it won't align at 2". My steering wheel has been slightly crooked for over 10k after 3" lift and alignment but my tire wear has been excellent.

TechnicalDisaster

I have a SAS Badlands. I put the Eibach 2” lift springs over the factory Bilsteins. No problem with alignment.

I just went to 37” tires, and I’m waiting to see how it all handles on the trail before considering new UCAs. I want to experience and encounter a need first hand before I run out and buy a bunch of upgrades without fully understanding what they do and how they affect my driving. In other words, I don’t want to buy a solution looking for a problem.

I'll be interested in seeing how she does on the trail with that setup. Everything I've read says that a 2" lift isn't enough to keep your 37"s from rubbing in some situations off-road. As a matter of fact, several people have pointed out that unless you go REALLY big with the lift, you're going to rub. That's why JKS created their max clearance kit. But that's gonna mean cutting on your Bronco...

JoergH

I'll be interested in seeing how she does on the trail with that setup. Everything I've read says that a 2" lift isn't enough to keep your 37"s from rubbing in some situations off-road. As a matter of fact, several people have pointed out that unless you go REALLY big with the lift, you're going to rub. That's why JKS created their max clearance kit. But that's gonna mean cutting on your Bronco...

I have a little bit of rubbing on the fender liner at full lock in reverse. I don’t think it is rubbing against the crash bars since I went with a -12 offset. I just haven’t had time to explore it yet.

It would be awesome if JKS sold a kit with the fender liner brackets only, and not the crash bar chop replacement.

TechnicalDisaster

I have a little bit of rubbing on the fender liner at full lock in reverse. I don’t think it is rubbing against the crash bars since I went with a -12 offset. I just haven’t had time to explore it yet.

It would be awesome if JKS sold a kit with the fender liner brackets only, and not the crash bar chop replacement.

-12, isn't that a lot of poke?

JoergH

-12, isn't that a lot of poke?

The perfect amount of poke. 😆 it gives the Bronco a real nice stance.