Apr 07, 2026
The Bronco Engine of Choice
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raqballApr 07, 2026
Not sure I'd trust a video from a random YT channel with 5K subscribers.. Look at theIr other videos, all hyperbole.
2.3 -vs- 2.7 ---- 2dr vs 4dr = Meh.... Get the engine you want and get the # of doors you want..
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extra toastyApr 07, 2026
Ok-Meh, from what I've seen, and read, from forum posts and from reputable sources, the 2.7 has just as many potential problems as the 2.3. Every vehicle on the planet has the potential for lemons, issues and whatnot..
Not sure I'd trust a video from a random YT channel with 5K subscribers.. Look at theIr other videos, all hyperbole.
2.3 -vs- 2.7 ---- 2dr vs 4dr = Meh.... Get the engine you want and get the # of doors you want..
That’s the common consensus among enthusiasts and mechanics—that Ford’s "fix" for the 2.3L was more of a patch than a total redesign.
The argument that it’s a band-aid usually boils down to two things:
- The "Saw Cut" Design: While Ford moved from the open-deck "slotted" block to a "solid" block to stop coolant from leaking into cylinders 2 and 3, they still use a "saw cut" (a tiny groove) between the cylinders for cooling. Critics argue this still leaves a structural weak point where the head gasket can eventually fail under high boost or heat.
- Heat Management: The 2.3L is a relatively small displacement engine pushed very hard. In heavy vehicles like the Explorer or Bronco, it runs high boost pressures, which puts immense stress on those middle cylinders (2 and 3).
Why the 2.7L is seen as the "Real" Fix
If you feel the 2.3L is a compromised design, the 2.7L EcoBoost is the mechanical opposite. It wasn’t adapted from a car engine; it was built from the ground up as a miniature diesel-style truck engine:
- Compacted Graphite Iron (CGI) Block: It doesn't use the aluminum block that the 2.3L does. CGI is much stiffer and doesn't "flex" or crack under heat like aluminum.
- Two-Piece Block: It has a "deep skirt" design that makes the bottom end incredibly rigid.
If you’re planning to keep the vehicle past 100,000 miles or plan on tuning it for more power, the 2.7L is widely considered the superior engine because its "bones" are physically stronger. The 2.3L is fine for a 3-year lease, but the "band-aid" fix is exactly why long-term owners are nervous.
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raqballApr 07, 2026
The Reality Check:
If you’re planning to keep the vehicle past 100,000 miles or plan on tuning it for more power, the 2.7L is widely considered the superior engine because its "bones" are physically stronger. The 2.3L is fine for a 3-year lease, but the "band-aid" fix is exactly why long-term owners are nervous.
I'm not even remotely nervous.. These engine and door wars get old..
I've had exactly one recall on my 2023 Badlands 2.3L. It was for the rear shocks but I never got it done because I have aftermarket shocks.
Thats the only recall for my Bronco. There have been no other recalls, engine related or otherwise.
The problem with that video, is that if people take it as factual / seriously (I don't), is that it leaves them needing to sort though the noise and fear mongering to make a decision.
People should just get what they want as any vehicle, engine size, etc. can / will have issues, lemons and recalls..
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extra toastyApr 07, 2026
You’re totally right. Every engine and vehicleI'm not even remotely nervous.. These engine and door wars get old..
I've had exactly one recall on my 2023 Badlands 2.3L. It was for the rear shocks but I never got it done because I have aftermarket shocks.
Thats the only recall for my Bronco. There have been no other recalls, engine related or otherwise.
The problem with that video, is that if people take it as factual / seriously (I don't), is that it leaves them needing to sort though the noise and fear mongering to make a decision.
People should just get what they want as any vehicle, engine size, etc. can / will have issues, lemons and recalls..
can have component issues. But an inherent design or application can change the formula. 2dr vs 4dr is opinion. This is physics.
Weight is the natural enemy of a small-displacement, turbocharged engine. When you put a
2.3L four-cylinder in a vehicle that weighs between 4,400 and 5,300 lbs(depending on the trim and gear), you change the engine's "duty cycle" significantly.
Here is why your concern about the weight-to-displacement ratio is valid:
- Constant Boost: In a lighter car like the Mustang, the 2.3L can cruise out of boost. In a heavy Bronco, especially with 35-inch tires (Sasquatch package), the engine stays "on the pipe" much more often just to maintain highway speeds. This creates higher sustained cylinder head temperatures and puts more stress on the turbo seals.
- Low-End Torque Struggle: While the 2.3L has impressive peak torque (310–325 lb-ft), it achieves it higher in the RPM range than a larger engine. Moving 5,000+ lbs from a dead stop requires a lot of "grunt," which often results in the 10-speed transmission hunting for gears or holding high RPMs, negatively impacting fuel economy and long-term wear.
- The 2.7L Alternative: This is why many Bronco buyers opt for the 2.7L EcoBoost V6. It offers 400+ lb-ft of torque and uses a compacted graphite iron (CGI) block—the same material used in PowerStroke diesels—which is much better suited for the high-stress demands of a heavy off-roader.
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raqballApr 07, 2026
You’re totally right. Every engine and vehicle
can have component issues. But an inherent design or application can change the formula. 2dr vs 4dr is opinion. This is physics.
Weight is the natural enemy of a small-displacement, turbocharged engine. When you put a
2.3L four-cylinder in a vehicle that weighs between 4,400 and 5,300 lbs(depending on the trim and gear), you change the engine's "duty cycle" significantly.
Here is why your concern about the weight-to-displacement ratio is valid:
If you plan on towing, adding heavy armor/winches, or running large tires, the 2.3L will be working at its absolute limit most of the time.
- Constant Boost: In a lighter car like the Mustang, the 2.3L can cruise out of boost. In a heavy Bronco, especially with 35-inch tires (Sasquatch package), the engine stays "on the pipe" much more often just to maintain highway speeds. This creates higher sustained cylinder head temperatures and puts more stress on the turbo seals.
- Low-End Torque Struggle: While the 2.3L has impressive peak torque (310–325 lb-ft), it achieves it higher in the RPM range than a larger engine. Moving 5,000+ lbs from a dead stop requires a lot of "grunt," which often results in the 10-speed transmission hunting for gears or holding high RPMs, negatively impacting fuel economy and long-term wear.
- The 2.7L Alternative: This is why many Bronco buyers opt for the 2.7L EcoBoost V6. It offers 400+ lb-ft of torque and uses a compacted graphite iron (CGI) block—the same material used in PowerStroke diesels—which is much better suited for the high-stress demands of a heavy off-roader.
The original video claimed the 2.3L was one of the worst engines ever built (LOL) which is how this thread started. Are we now transitioning to towing and boost?
Sure the 2.7 is the better option if you plan on towing a lot or towing something that needs more oomph.. I tow my camper just fine with my 2.3 but my camper is like 1500 lbs. I've had no issues with the trans 'searching for gears' and no issues with it 'holding high RPMs'
If you plan on towing, adding heavy armor/winches, or running large tires, the 2.3L will be working at its absolute limit most of the time.
This is just blatantly false and intentionally misleading...
Do your own research people, get what you want / need and be happy!
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Bronco21MaybeWed at 12:03 am
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KennethWed at 4:43 pm
Cheers
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KennethWed at 9:19 pm
Gotta mention these errors plus several weird enunciations has me thinking this may be an AI creation..
Cheers
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extra toastyThu at 12:49 am
Second look at this video says March '26 Ford issued a "Stop sale notice under recall 26C12". Attached that recall doc which has nothing to do with 2.3L Ecoboost.
Gotta mention these errors plus several weird enunciations has me thinking this may be an AI creation..
Cheers
Yeah AI makes mistakes. I’ve corrected it at times. It apologizes.
Funny thing. Nobody is arguing about the recommended engines.🤷🏻♂️
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Jakob1972Thu at 1:42 pm
Mostly posting if it does happen I can say remember way back I predicted it. 😂
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raqballThu at 4:40 pm
Second look at this video says March '26 Ford issued a "Stop sale notice under recall 26C12". Attached that recall doc which has nothing to do with 2.3L Ecoboost.
Gotta mention these errors plus several weird enunciations has me thinking this may be an AI creation..
Cheers
Yeah, that YT channel has to be satire... I briefly watched a few of their other videos and well..... = LOL
They legit, and with a straight face, called the 2.3L one of the worst engines ever made which is an absolutely laughable claim.
As I said before, I hope that nobody takes that channel seriously..
People take / believe / think that what AI says is true and correct but in many cases, that is far from the truth.
Here is a prime example. I asked Grok AI if a camping propane stove can use isobutane gas canisters.
We all know the answer is yes as long as you have an adapter but Grok AI says no..
I have been using these adapters for years with zero issues to swap between propane and isobutane canisters. I buy and use whichever is cheaper or on sale..
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KennethThu at 5:15 pm
They cancelled further development of the AI product as it would double staff commitment to train, maintain & supervise..
Cheers
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awall1231Thu at 8:06 pm
really liking my 2.3. had a 2.7 in my f150 which was a good engine as well. had the procal tune put in my 2025 base bronco 2.3 and its a rocket. loving my new Bronco. get compliments all the time. most say they like that it doesnt look all accessoried out with gadgets and such. i highly suggest the procal tune. fuel may cost a little more but this isnt a prius.From what I've seen, and read, from forum posts and from reputable sources, the 2.7 has just as many potential problems as the 2.3. Every vehicle on the planet has the potential for lemons, issues and whatnot..
Not sure I'd trust a video from a random YT channel with 5K subscribers.. Look at theIr other videos, all hyperbole.
2.3 -vs- 2.7 ---- 2dr vs 4dr = Meh.... Get the engine you want and get the # of doors you want..
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KennethThu at 8:12 pm
really liking my 2.3. had a 2.7 in my f150 which was a good engine as well. had the procal tune put in my 2025 base bronco 2.3 and its a rocket. loving my new Bronco. get compliments all the time. most say they like that it doesnt look all accessoried out with gadgets and such. i highly suggest the procal tune. fuel may cost a little more but this isnt a prius.
Nice garage!
Cheers
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Q1svtThu at 9:17 pm
You watch, you decide.
“ It’s easier to be fooled than to be convinced that you have been fooled”
… buyer beware. The newly released video is 5 days ago. But he is talking about the prior Bronco 2.3l. 2021-24
Fords 2025 2.3l MPC is a different engine with a similar advertised displacement
Picture below for video has a plastic valve cover.

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extra toastyFri at 12:46 am
You’re correct. Looks like a big improvement. 🤞
While the 2025 2.3L EcoBoost features a new architecture designed to solve older mechanical flaws, historical issues with the 2.3L line and early reports on the new "MPC" version highlight a few specific concerns.
2025 "MPC" Specific Concerns
The 2025 engine is still relatively new, but early owner feedback and design changes point to these areas:
- Turbo Wastegate Issues: Some 2025 owners have reported premature failure or sticking of the turbo wastegate linkage, sometimes due to missing hardware like E-clips.
- Gas Particulate Filter (GPF): The 2025 version includes a new particulate filter for emissions that may eventually require high-cost replacement or specialized maintenance to avoid clogging.
- Manufacturing Quality Control: Ford issued a customer satisfaction program for some 2.3L engines (specifically late 2023/early 2024 production) regarding oil leaks from the engine block due to faulty machining of the main oil galley.
Historically Reported Problems (Previous Generations)
If you are looking at the general 2.3L platform, these are the "classic" issues that the 2025 redesign aims to address:
- Carbon Buildup: Older 2.3L engines relied solely on direct injection, leading to carbon deposits on intake valves. The 2025 dual-injection system (port and direct) is designed to wash these valves and prevent this.
- "Eco-Boom" (Head Gasket Failure): Early 2.3L engines (especially in the Focus RS) were notorious for head gasket failures that allowed coolant to enter cylinders. Ford redesigned the block and gasket for later models to mitigate this risk.
- Low-Speed Pre-Ignition (LSPI): Under high load at low RPM, these engines could experience internal pressure spikes that bend connecting rods. The new 2025 twin-scroll turbo and injection strategy are intended to reduce this risk.
- Accessory Failures: High-pressure fuel pumps (HPFP), water pumps, and plastic oil pans have been cited as common leak or failure points as the engines reach 60,000+ miles.
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extra toastyFri at 10:11 pm
Try this one…Second look at this video says March '26 Ford issued a "Stop sale notice under recall 26C12". Attached that recall doc which has nothing to do with 2.3L Ecoboost.
Gotta mention these errors plus several weird enunciations has me thinking this may be an AI creation..
Cheers
The 26S10 (NHTSA campaign 26V122) is a major safety recall issued in March 2026 for approximately 48,000 vehicles, including the 2025 Ford Bronco.
The Core Problem: EGR Valve Failure
A manufacturing defect in the Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) valve can cause a sudden, unexpected loss of drive power while the vehicle is in motion. This occurs because an internal component called a "poppet head" may detach due to faulty welding, causing excessive exhaust to flood the engine at the wrong time.
Critical Symptoms to Watch For
Owners have reported these signs occurring in vehicles with as few as 6,000 miles:
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- Noticeable engine vibration or shaking.
- Weak acceleration or "limp mode".
- Illuminated Check Engine Light (often codes P0401 or P0404).
- Stalling or a total "no start" condition.
- Availability of Fix: As of early April 2026, the final remedy is still under development. Ford expects a permanent fix to be available in September 2026.
- Notifications: Ford began mailing initial safety risk letters to owners on March 16, 2026.
- Is it safe to drive?: Ford has not issued a "do not drive" order, but advises pull over safely if you experience sudden vibration or power loss.
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