I was having fun till the engine froze up at 3000 miles

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it cracks me up when people act like Toyotas are Indestructible :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Yeah hate to break the news Toyota and all the rest fail also. 2016 Toyota had a recall campaign on the 4 cylinder in my wife's Rav4. The were checking for excessive oil usage. The result of their test was that 1quart of oil used in 1000 miles was in the acceptable range and nothing was wrong. Talk about a total BS answer. We promptly got rid of it and I will never own another Toyota vehicle.
 

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I don't know what's up with these 2.7s all of a sudden. When I had my 2017 2.7 F-150 i never remember seeing as many issues as I'm seeing with the Bronco. And I was on several groups and forums at the time as well.
 
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Toyota is coming out with the redesigned 4runner this fall......just sayin' :p:p:p:p

Toyota has that "if it isn't broke don't fix it attitude. That's why their tech and engines in the Tacoma and 4Runner are so dated. Hopefully they come up with a better power plant in the next gens. Jeep falls into the same category. That's why they still use that 3.6l slug of an engine.
 

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Sorry to say that the sky is falling if you were the one that spent $50,000 and your vehicle goes down the dealer tells you sorry you have to wait and it takes weeks and weeks even months to get your car back . If you’re trying to work for your family and you have no vehicle and the dealer tells you they’re out of loaners and ford tells you what do you want me to do yell at the dealer. Then yes the sky is falling for those people that are suffering and to make light of it is no help whatsoever ,think about it .. it sucks
LOL , so is the sky falling for you or are you trying to pull it down yourself ?

One thing that I have noticed is the loudest complainers are the ones that mention how much something cost and usually are not even the ones that have experienced a problem . Perhaps if a $50,000 vehicle has a person stressed out emotionally and or financially then they might rather invest in a cheaper vehicle or even a couple of cheaper vehicles . This is especially good advice if providing for your family revolves around whether or not their $50,000 status vehicle can get them to work or not .
 

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Toyota has that "if it isn't broke don't fix it attitude. That's why their tech and engines in the Tacoma and 4Runner are so dated. Hopefully they come up with a better power plant in the next gens. Jeep falls into the same category. That's why they still use that 3.6l slug of an engine.
A slug that works or an engine that's in the shop. I'll take the slug and see you on the trails.
 

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LOL, You're a more patient person than I am. I would have said "heck yes, what ever it takes to get him off his butt and get a new engine in my Bronco ASAP!". Anyway, if you're getting close to that 30 days, you might want consider making noises about the lemon law here is CA to the Service Manager and the GM. They are the ones who are going to get stuck with an engines Bronco and down what you paid for it.
Ford Motor is responsible for buybacks, not the dealership(s). The dealership only helps execute buybacks. Once a buyback occurs the dealership will complete repairs and Ford will have the vehicle shipped to one of several locations.
Making noise with the Service Manager and GM will not produce a buyback decision. The customer must request a buyback with Ford Motor and the request goes to a specialist who reviews the case.
 

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Ford Motor is responsible for buybacks, not the dealership(s). The dealership only helps execute buybacks. Once a buyback occurs the dealership will complete repairs and Ford will have the vehicle shipped to one of several locations.
Making noise with the Service Manager and GM will not produce a buyback decision. The customer must request a buyback with Ford Motor and the request goes to a specialist who reviews the case.
I hate how fast our society jumps to this attitude I hope I haven't contributed negatively to the op's problem we are here to help and support
 

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Ford Motor is responsible for buybacks, not the dealership(s). The dealership only helps execute buybacks. Once a buyback occurs the dealership will complete repairs and Ford will have the vehicle shipped to one of several locations.
Making noise with the Service Manager and GM will not produce a buyback decision. The customer must request a buyback with Ford Motor and the request goes to a specialist who reviews the case.
The OP is in CA, and in CA we have a pretty stringent Lemon Law. I'm no lawyer, but we have lawyers here in CA that specialize in this kind of law. The point being, that if the OP isn't happy with the wait and having a lot of money tied up in a lemon and his dealer and Ford aren't treating him right then he's got options/rights.
 

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I hate how fast our society jumps to this attitude I hope I haven't contributed negatively to the op's problem we are here to help and support
I don't understand who you say we should support? The dealer, Ford?
 
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LOL , so is the sky falling for you or are you trying to pull it down yourself ?

One thing that I have noticed is the loudest complainers are the ones that mention how much something cost and usually are not even the ones that have experienced a problem . Perhaps if a $50,000 vehicle has a person stressed out emotionally and or financially then they might rather invest in a cheaper vehicle or even a couple of cheaper vehicles . This is especially good advice if providing for your family revolves around whether or not their $50,000 status vehicle can get them to work or not .
Wow did you ever take off in a different direction. I’m happy for you, money is no issue for you. Not sure how that has anything to do with the O . P that as to deal with the bs.
 

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Wow did you ever take off in a different direction. I’m happy for you, money is no issue for you. Not sure how that has anything to do with the O . P that as to deal with the bs.
Enough already! his Bronco will be fixed and of course it sucks but we need to support him with helpful suggestions not this constant tearing down I'm sorry if I've been guilty of this negativity please give it a rest already
 
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Enough already! his Bronco will be fixed and of course it sucks but we need to support him with helpful suggestions not this constant tearing down I'm sorry if I've been guilty of this negativity please give it a rest already
Back at ya .I’m done if you are
 

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The OP is in CA, and in CA we have a pretty stringent Lemon Law. I'm no lawyer, but we have lawyers here in CA that specialize in this kind of law. The point being, that if the OP isn't happy with the wait and having a lot of money tied up in a lemon and his dealer and Ford aren't treating him right then he's got options/rights.
Agreed, the "OP" has options and rights when it comes to a buyback or Lemon Law situation (the two are not always the same thing). Simply pointing out Ford Motor Co makes those decisions, not the dealership. Also, dealerships do not provide the New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage - Ford Motor Co provides that coverage. Dealerships carry out the warranty repairs on behalf of Ford Motor Co as part of the Sales and Service agreement.
 

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a little info for those "wating on ford"
I Checked with one of my Ford techs today to get more information on the process for repair approval after the technician diagnoses the vehicle they enter it in to costcap and get an immediate approval from ford. ford has recently adopted a policy that for the first 12 months 12000 miles mabey longer depending on the model he didn't know for bronco that they just replace engine and transmissions
so if your dealer doesn't have repair approval he said they could be in trouble with Ford for having to many misdiagnosed repairs or in his words they are jerking you around hope this helps
 

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a little info for those "wating on ford"
I Checked with one of my Ford techs today to get more information on the process for repair approval after the technician diagnoses the vehicle they enter it in to costcap and get an immediate approval from ford. ford has recently adopted a policy that for the first 12 months 12000 miles mabey longer depending on the model he didn't know for bronco that they just replace engine and transmissions
so if your dealer doesn't have repair approval he said they could be in trouble with Ford for having to many misdiagnosed repairs or in his words they are jerking you around hope this helps
That would suck if they are pulling some BS with me. Thanks for the information. I keep an eye on where my Bronco sits and it hasn’t moved at all. It’s time for a surprise visit I think.
 

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so he said if they have gotten in trouble with Ford they have to do a tear down of your engine and submit pictures for approval it wouldn't hurt to drop in and see if they have done a tear down
 
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Well, admittedly, the entire vehicle hasn't been indestructible. I did have issues with the Fox shocks, and they needed to be replaced under warranty. And I've had some issues with my head unit and Bluetooth. But none of the issues were something that would have left me stranded.
You just said it in here the reason of why Toyota has to be more reliable than others manufacturers.

The issues that you had in your 4runner are coming from the last updates they did on the vehicle, meaning that those updates are not mature enough to not have any issue.

The power train of the 4runner has 12 years of maturity. It would be embarrassing for any manufacturers to still have design or production issues on something that has been already 12 years on the run.

No one can expect to not have any kind of issues on the next generation that for sure is going to be an all new vehicle. If they do, they surely doesn't know about 6sigma culture or learning curve among others.

For sure the japanese culture will help a lot on stretching that process over our culture, but still, there is a learning process on any production line that has to come to achieve high quality levels.